Filing a tyre with water?

[fingers99]

Sounds daft, but here's the plan.

I have a few old steel wheels with old rubber tyres. I have two bench grinders needing stands. (one for general workshop use, one for "TUNGSTENS ONLY OR YOU DIE!"). I don't like bench mounted grinders (the height is all wrong for me, and they clutter the bench up) and all of the commercially available stands require bolting to the floor which I don't want (it's handy to be able to move them as awkward objects need to be shifted in and out).

I figured weld some tube to the wheels and a top plate (the Chinese girls over the way have just chucked out a couple of beds which might do the job), fill the tyres with water for extra stability.

Problem is, how to get water into the tyres. I can probably get hold of an air fitting and meld it to a hosepipe, but other than that.............

Ideas welcome.

 

[bleach]

at my old job we had wheel rims with a welded pipe on it and it was filled with concert and a rubber mat on the floor to keep the sound down.

worked great and you could take the grinder off and put something else on.

 

[fingers99]

Yes, thanks, that should do it.

 

[shenion]

I was going to suggest filling with concrete. The tire will flex and allow the stand to rock back and forth.

I would probably use the wheel itself and put some sandbags on it. I have also seen just the wheel with a concrete "dome" poured on it for added weight.

 

[wyn]

I used to "ballast" the wheels on tractors with a water /anti freeze mix.

The tyre valve needs to be at about 10 past or 10 to.
The problem then is you need a special fitting that allows the water in but also has an extra small tube incorporated to allow the air out.
The machine needs to be jacked up, then pump the water in with a submersible pump in a bucket(12V pump) connected to the valve fitting.

Hours of fun nightmare when you take the wheel off and forget it's full....you can get squashed.

 

[fingers99]

Great stuff! Wyn, I've never been near a tractor -- why did you need to ballast the wheels?

 

[madkayaker]

to increase ground pressure and traction?

 

[wyn]

Great stuff! Wyn, I've never been near a tractor -- why did you need to ballast the wheels?

Before there were a lot of these newfangled 4wd tractors about , if you had a 2wd with a loader on the front, it was a way of adding weight to the back to give some grip as madkayaker said.

 

[Justme]

Just dont forget the anifreeze or when you drive down the road with the frozen water all on the bottom (when stationary) you end up doing a loop de loop & going out of control big time. If that little 5g weight on your car can cause problems thing what 1/2 ton of water will do.

Justme

 

[snowcat]

Before there were a lot of these newfangled 4wd tractors about , if you had a 2wd with a loader on the front, it was a way of adding weight to the back to give some grip as madkayaker said.

Iv done a few on the new fangled 4wd jobs as well, when they ve been weighted up to the hilt, normally when some idot recons he doesnt need a crawler to drag a double mole up a hill, hmmm a ton of wheal weights and a 50% water ballest always makes a 680 on a 42" rim fun to handle

 

[Archie]

Hehe. I drove the Super Dexter down a steep concrete hill over the summer with a full pack of fence posts on the loader. Turns out it was a bit too steep; all I could do was hang on until it flattened out! Opposite of putting our post rammer on the back of the Major. Steering becomes, shall we say, 'light' and you wouldn't want to let the clutch off too quick.

 

[90vanman]

Hi, snowcat, do you remember a firm at Tillingham or Southminster called Michael Moore Moles. I worked there for a while a long time ago. He designed a double mole, then a triple mole drawbar that nothing could pull.

 

[jammy]

Good for land mine strikes or small IED's!

 

[pedrobedro]

I had a 13" steel rim with a post in it for my 6" bench grinder and it didn't have any added weight. It was plenty stable enough and if you want to push on it you could always put a foot on the tyre but if I pushed on my grinder enough to move it it would stop the wheel.

 

[Wozzaaah]

This thread's 4 years old chaps.

 

[Engineer1964]

This thread's 4 years old chaps.

I think they must be doing their bit for recycling

 

[chunkolini]

Sir Wozz beat me to it.
But sometimes old threads are relevant.......

 

[normspanners]

This is why you need extra weight in the tyres and steady on the clutch in reverse, this was the result of new boots and nothing to do with weight on the loader instead of helping (I was jammed over the wheel) Bob says stay there I gotta get a picture!!!I was saying FLICK off with that camera and HELP