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arther dailey
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sack truck and walk them...Good idea but I can't lift them anymore
angellonewolf
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i do this every year at work we have a long drive and holes every year
in yellow cut out like this would be a proper job and relay driving on with a car 2 day at least if you want it to last any time the longer the better 7 day would be ideal
in red dig down to 40mm this is the ideal depth if the underneath is then solid and cold tarmac use wacker plate leave it slightly high about 7 mmas it will drop a bit but not much if using wacker plate
blue dig out deep as much as you can fill with type 1 wacker plate and keep topping up over the months as there is nothing there holding it from sliding in to the mud unless you dig out and put kirb stones there after a couple years it will go solid and then you could try digging 40mm down and cold tarmac over it
if you get standing water over any place you will be doing it again next summer (i do) but we cant close to do a proper job and im not working on xmas day to do it either
in yellow cut out like this would be a proper job and relay driving on with a car 2 day at least if you want it to last any time the longer the better 7 day would be ideal
in red dig down to 40mm this is the ideal depth if the underneath is then solid and cold tarmac use wacker plate leave it slightly high about 7 mmas it will drop a bit but not much if using wacker plate
blue dig out deep as much as you can fill with type 1 wacker plate and keep topping up over the months as there is nothing there holding it from sliding in to the mud unless you dig out and put kirb stones there after a couple years it will go solid and then you could try digging 40mm down and cold tarmac over it
if you get standing water over any place you will be doing it again next summer (i do) but we cant close to do a proper job and im not working on xmas day to do it either
If price is a key point. Asphalt is usually cheaper than concrete as there is a significant reduction in prep time. Also unless you pay extra for rapid cure concrete (which is also harder to lay due to curing time) then you have 7 days to stay off it but tarmac can be as little as an hour.
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cold tarmac can and is at our place drivin over normaly 2 mins or even as im doing it only thing i do when ive wacked it down well is brush a bit of dust/light stones off the side of the road and brush it over the tarmac looks a bit siht but stops the tacmac being sticky and stickying to the tyres
ive even had large lorrys full of rubble drive over after a few mins and its ok
only thing that helps makes the job easyer doing it when its 15oc or higher as the cold tarmac is warm and i just roll the bag about to brake it up before opening (as if you just dump the bag out you spend ages breaking up the lumps so spending time bending and rolling in the bag is well spent
clearing the hole must not be wet i use a sthil blower to get any dust and loose stuff out
and if possable no rain for a day the longer the better
The good cold lay tarmac is actually hydro curing. But even the cheap stuff is expensive in Comparison to hot lay.
If you have a friend with a tipper van or a trailer I would be inclined to just collect 1t at £150 a tonne. As opposed to Coldlay at £550- £1500 a tonne
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i was only thinking hes going to use the cold tarmac for the tarmac area not the concreat drive
if doing the drive might be better to get a team in and see if they can tag it in at the end of a job thats how my drive part to the garage was done
when the bloke come round and i showed him the photos of how deep and what was layed and wackered down he said you could park a tank on there
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Goodness me....
I said it earlier.
With all the constraints you're putting on this, without any
compromise, your only solution is some cold lay tarmac...
I said it earlier.
With all the constraints you're putting on this, without any
compromise, your only solution is some cold lay tarmac...
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just a point here
we dont drive on freshly laid tarmac thats laid on a rd why would we drive onto a drive thats been freshly laid
as goes for properly done and set its stay off it for 24hrs
as its been made very clear its a conservation area its like for like or it gets refused ( post 11 )
Other Daniel
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Then, it would seem, the only remaining solution is to do nothing.
They might play the Ransom strip malarky on you , they have done their bit tarmacking up to the Ransom strip .
I had a battle over such . Did several days researching in Peterborough's Reference library ,turned out in 1864 the railways act allowed railways to cut across roads and the councils had to get permission to re run the roar over the track .. The railways only gave them the exact road width of 15 feet and no embankment , with no ransom strip so in the end the CCC replaced 18 inches of proper tarmac road bed to the edge of the property at their expense . Giving me a very nice 30 metre wide lorry access at the crest of a former embankment where th track & crossing gates had been FOC instead of the £21 K or so they wanted off me for putting in my access over what they said was their ransom strip..
16 yrs ago in mud July I tried getting a couple of ( in my 3/4 ton trailer) loads of hot 20 and 2 loads of 10 at a local Tarmac plant ..
They wouldn't let me on site even though I had steelies , overalls , gloves ,yellow vest , hard hat & an eyewash pack ,. stating i wasn't qualified / trained to be on site as i had no safety certificate ...... But they could deliver each small load for £600 plus VAT..
In the end I had half a pallet of cold cure delivered by a locak builders merchant . Left it out in the sun for a day and around 3 the next day laid it running a small trench wacker over it after a spray or two of diesel on the plate sole and then fine spray hose pipe cured it , , also used liquid bitumen to seal the edges .
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I was fixated on the hole. Wasn't looking at the concrete. 
For a super quick temporary fix, couldn't you just lay a road plate over it?
For a super quick temporary fix, couldn't you just lay a road plate over it?
There is a massive difference between opening a road for traffic and carefully driving over a patch on a driveway.
Whilst not ideal tarmac can be trafficked carefully as soon as it's compacted.
Whereas concrete capable of being trafficked in such a short time frame would be incredibly expensive and be very difficult to lay.
And whilst yes it's an AONB a tarmac patch repair is not exactly a new drive. Or a visual impact.
That must of been a short lived rule. They wouldn't have any clients left if they stuck with that as the vast majority of people collecting at tarmac plants are not exactly professionals mostly collecting tarmac between tree work and scrap runs.
Best I've seen is two lads shoveling tarmac out of a loading shovel bucket into the back of a Citroen Berlingo van.
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I'm not bothered about the conservation part of it as I'm just fixing the existing drive but if/when it gets redone properly it has to be "in keeping with the area" so gravel: no good for motorcycles, cobbles: very expensive or something else. Block paving is definitely not allowed.
This is a right PITA as it was the councils crappy road surface breaking up that started the driveway crumbling.
This is a right PITA as it was the councils crappy road surface breaking up that started the driveway crumbling.
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Take the family on a two week holiday, leave all your cars at the airport…get a man or two to fix drive. Or stay in the UK. Sorted.
