Ford ranger

[Migmac]

I've never heard any horror stories about Isuzu.

We’ve got four joining our fleet. If they have faults they’ll show up with us, our trucks are used as workhorses

 

[Moose McAlpine]

So if you had say £10k to spend on a pick up, not to be used as a daily, what pick up would you buy?

Dropside Sprinter.

 

[Ton-up]

My mate has a transport business, he buys ex Tesco Sprinters for about £5K. Takes box body off and puts flat bed on. Does loads of miles all over the country. Runs them till they break and buys another.
He has very few problems with them.

 

[knighty]

2.1 sprinters are really good
New 2.0 engines are suposed to be useless... and there's spares shortages theyre breaking so fast/often

I've been looking for decent sprinter fridge vans for about a year to replace my older ones but they're all mega money and nega miles :-(
(Tho fridge vans are always a bit expensive)
Its totally normal to see a £15k 2019 van, think oh that looks decent, ckick the advert and it has 350k miles on it :-o

 

[Moose McAlpine]

Its totally normal to see a £15k 2019 van, think oh that looks decent, ckick the advert and it has 350k miles on it :-o

We recently bought a 2011 V6 Sprinter with 728k.

 

[fizzy]

2.1 sprinters are really good
New 2.0 engines are suposed to be useless... and there's spares shortages theyre breaking so fast/often

I've been looking for decent sprinter fridge vans for about a year to replace my older ones but they're all mega money and nega miles :-(
(Tho fridge vans are always a bit expensive)
Its totally normal to see a £15k 2019 van, think oh that looks decent, ckick the advert and it has 350k miles on it :-o

Build quality is rubbish on newer ones. Side doors always failing. Rear doors as well ending up in a total lock out. Body shells look very rust prone.
I prefer the Crafter. Nicer to drive and feels better made. Far more storage space in the cab as well.

 

[premmington]

Build quality is rubbish on newer ones. Side doors always failing. Rear doors as well ending up in a total lock out. Body shells look very rust prone.
I prefer the Crafter. Nicer to drive and feels better made. Far more storage space in the cab as well.

I have got a Crafter and I am my fourth now - they been good vans. None of them been really new of low mileage either.

New vans just too expensive for me...

 

[Bobupndown]

We recently bought a 2011 V6 Sprinter with 728k.

Is there still life left in one with those miles?

 

[Moose McAlpine]

Is there still life left in one with those miles?

Yes, it's actually a very clean (one owner/one driver) van. We put the engine in another van as we needed that on the road. Will put an engine back in and it'll be back up and running.

Not uncommon for the Europeans to rack up these kinds of miles on them.

 

[m_c]

Build quality is rubbish on newer ones. Side doors always failing. Rear doors as well ending up in a total lock out. Body shells look very rust prone.
I prefer the Crafter. Nicer to drive and feels better made. Far more storage space in the cab as well.

Crafter engines aren't anywhere near as good though.
Sprinters engines typically far outlast VW engines, and with less issues.

I've worked on Sprinter fleets where vans had typically done 300k before replacement, with some pushing 800k, with only the occasional blown engine, and minimal major repairs.
Crafter fleets were lucky to get to 120k without an engine going bang, or needing something major done.

New 2.0 Sprinter engine seems to be OK so far in terms of major failure (current employer has a few that are already over 150k with some pushing 200k), but a lot of jobs of them are quite involved.
The first of ours are just coming out of warranty, but the most major thing we've had to do so far are a couple water pumps.
We did get one recovered in last week with a failed steering rack, which is a bit concerning, as the steering jammed when they were doing a 3 point turn, at which point the driver refused to drive it any further.

We do have a new MAN (aka Crafter), but nobody seems to like it, so it only gets used as a last resort.
Drivers would rather take an 18 plate Sprinter, which I think sums up how well regarded it is.

 

[fizzy]

Crafter engines aren't anywhere near as good though.
Sprinters engines typically far outlast VW engines, and with less issues.

I've worked on Sprinter fleets where vans had typically done 300k before replacement, with some pushing 800k, with only the occasional blown engine, and minimal major repairs.
Crafter fleets were lucky to get to 120k without an engine going bang, or needing something major done.

New 2.0 Sprinter engine seems to be OK so far in terms of major failure (current employer has a few that are already over 150k with some pushing 200k), but a lot of jobs of them are quite involved.
The first of ours are just coming out of warranty, but the most major thing we've had to do so far are a couple water pumps.
We did get one recovered in last week with a failed steering rack, which is a bit concerning, as the steering jammed when they were doing a 3 point turn, at which point the driver refused to drive it any further.

We do have a new MAN (aka Crafter), but nobody seems to like it, so it only gets used as a last resort.
Drivers would rather take an 18 plate Sprinter, which I think sums up how well regarded it is.

I have never kept one long enough. All on long term hire. But I have had 5 Sprinters v 3 Crafters. The door problems caused me loads of grief and effected all 5 Sprinters.