Rust on A pillar

[dobbslc]

I've just given the Surf it's bi-annual jetwash and seen some rust bubbling up from behind the windscreen rubber
What's the best way to treat this for now until next summer when I can do a bit more with it?

 

[barracuda816]

To be honest there is not that much you can do without taking out the windscreen. If it were me, and I didn’t have time right now to do a proper fix, I would make up a few wooden (or 3d printed) wedges, to help keep the seal out of the way. And try to sand the paint off the worst, then lather it in fertan or similar. That has 100% rusted through the steel though, not sure you will really gain that much by a temp fix.

Option 2: sand off the paint where it is bubbling and spay it weekly with acf50

 

[Shedendman]

leave it till summer,it wont go any further,then make sure you do tackle next summer,we'll be watching

 

[frank horton]

the pro's use a length of non fraying rope under the seal's edge.....prob 8-10mm dia......
just lift the edge and poke the rope in.....easy....

 

[dobbslc]

the pro's use a length of non fraying rope under the seal's edge.....prob 8-10mm dia......
just lift the edge and poke the rope in.....easy....

We need a head scratching emoji here!
I don't know what you mean.

 

[dobbslc]

To be honest there is not that much you can do without taking out the windscreen.

That's what I'm thinking but I want to do something now then hopefully get the screen out in next years heatwave
I'm not even sure if it's bonded in or not.
The poor old truck is at a turning point now with bits of bloody rust popping out in a few places, I hate rust and previous vehicles have gone to the scrappy or been sold on when this sort of thing happened but not this car

 

[Turbo]

Clean off what you can, treat it with a rust treatment gel and finish with epoxy primer.

 

[OJCar]

An old way of doing respray masking was to lever up the rubber and push in an electrical cable about 3 to 4 mm outside diameter along the length of the rubber.
(I think this is what frank is on about). It causes the rubber to pull back from its normal "home" position, then you mask the rubber and screen in the normal way.
After painting the electrical cable is pulled out and the rubber returns to it "home", covering the edge of the respray.
Would only gain you a couple of mm tops, so not much use for what your wanting to do.

I suggest you apply whichever brand of snake oil is in fashion (if you want to - it won't do any good but you might feel better about it) and wait for the summer.
Then get the screen out and deal with it properly.

 

[bricol]

Stop cleaning it until next year and then sort it.

But make a real decision to do it . . . or you'll be posting a worse picture this time next year.

 

[jo1010]

....
I'm not even sure if it's bonded in or not.
The poor old truck is at a turning point now...

It's not bonded - the rubber seal is retaining the screen. Tbh (sorry) I think youll find more extensive rust underneath the rubber if you pry up the lip as suggested...looks like water ingress under the seal that has continued for some time...once you've fixed the rust with screen out either use a new rubber seal or use non setting mastic under the outside lip to keep the water out (DIY shed gutter sealant works)...

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

As said leave it.
If you can dry it out, brush on rust killer.
Can you seal the hole. Or open a drain hole lower down?

 

[dobbslc]

Stop cleaning it until next year and then sort it.

But make a real decision to do it . . . or you'll be posting a worse picture this time next year.

Yeah I know

.looks like water ingress under the seal that has continued for some time

That was probably National Windscreens when they bodged in a new screen a few years ago, not only did the monkey snap my very expensive electric aerial but on the first drive it felt like I was getting shot blasted in the face there was so much wind coming through the gaps!
They had to come back and refit it and I'm sure they didn't use a new seal

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

hat was probably National Windscreens when they bodged in a new screen

Same with a company van.
4 attempts to put it right.
In the end it was taken to a local place.
New screen, new seal and NEW Mastic paste. Something National windscreen did not do.

I feel for you.

 

[dobbslc]

The other problem with the Surf is the screens are hard to get, I think they used a Landcriuser Prado one in the end . I'm not sure if it's bonded, if it is can I get it out without braking it.

 

[reb78]

I don't think that's bonded. What does the seal look like on the inside?

 

[tom2207]

quick squirt of act will help it survive through to the summer ,, a bit on the top outer edge of the rubber and flex the seal with a plastic trim tool to let the juice of life work its way in and perform its magic.

but it looks like the hole is there already ,,,,

 

[Slowcoach]

Is there not an insert to spread the rubber onto screen and pillar.
The gap channel between screen and pillar looks like it doubles after the rust starts.
You can pull screens in with any decent string/baler twine as long as you start with a good over lap and go careful.

 

[Slowcoach]

Cut some milk cartons to protect the rubber if you sand the rust down, it’s easy to ruin a plastic/rubber trim with abrasives no matter how careful you think you’ll be.

 

[galooph]

I had the same on my Surf a few years back. I used a spot blaster (making sure I masked the glass!) with the rubber lifted a bit. Brush painted some epoxy primer on and left it at that. I was looking at it the other day, and it's just starting to lift a little bit, so I think I'll be doing something about it when it warms up a bit next year!

Thinking about it, I did the spot blasting back when I rented my unit, and I vacated that 4 years ago. Time flies!

 

[dobbslc]

I've had a Google and it looks like it's bonded in. I do think the rust is much worse than it looks so I'm looking at removing the screen to fix the problems, christ knows how I'll sort any paintwork if it needs welding.
The seal is only 3 sided going by the parts list.