Craig-SM
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It's been a while since I've done an EPDM rubber roof membrane and when it was it turned into a very hot day to the extent that I left burnt skin on the roof so need to ask the collectives experience on fitting EPDM on a cold day like today with a 2C temperature and due to drop below freezing overnight.
The new neighbour, a young couple, have been taken a for a ride many times with their tradesman but in particular one guy. I'll not call him a builder or anything else that would have any kind of trade skill as he has installed windows wonky, tried to stick blown render on with silicone and now they have had roofing leaks too that I know the previous neighbours hadn't so for simplicity we'll call this person John Wayne. I had a fall out with the neighbour when John Wayne left roof ladders hooked on the ridge for weeks on end with no work happening then the storms came and they were left hanging onto the roof by the chimney and ready to fall.
Neighbour called me last week as he had leaks coming in from the bedroom bay window. The carpet was soaked even with towels on the window sills. He asked if I could look at it as he was worried with their new born staying in the bedroom with them. I had a quick look and you could see that the bedroom window frame was twisted and despite the opening windows not closing completely (you could feel wind through them) it wasn't leaking from the window itself. Water was literally running down the inside of the window frame from the join with the ceiling. I told him it was probably the flat roof that has failed. We are semi-detached so share the bay window that is about 3 feet deep and lead covered from the 1930's. He thought it might have been the flat roof and already had people coming to quote but was confused by the different types of which two where in his price range, Rubber roof at £1,200 and rubber coated roof (I think this was just rubber painted) at £500 but didn't want to do either unless he was sure it was the roof. I got my endoscope for the iPad and drilled a hole in the ceiling near where the leak was worst but far enough back to see around. Plasterboard had been nailed over the old lat and plaster ceiling and it was now basically mud it had become that wet. After much probing and cleaning the lens I was able to see water coming down one of section of beam before soaking into the plaster and collecting onto on the window frame where it ran down into the bedroom. Further looking around it looks like a wooden plank on the roof, that runs from the corner of the bay window, had been broken. The neighbour was able to see all this as we discovered it and I said that has been recent and probably when he was having the windows fitted, I never saw any props being used when the old windows came out. I told him that as a temporary measure he could borrow my ladders in the morning and look for a split in the lead and fill it with a bitumen product to seal it until he got the roof fixed properly and prevent any further damage. I was asked for my advice on what to replace it with to which I said lead as it's been up there for nearly a century without problem but it will be expensive and fibre glass and EPDM rubber roof. I got a call at the weekend to say the roof was getting replaced on Tuesday which I thought was quick and he was going with EPDM. Yesterday bounced it down and then this afternoon John Wayne gets dropped off with his ladders, sheet of OSB and roll of rubber.
What are the chances of the adhesive working in such cold temperatures and if it fails what are the chances of water damage to my property?
The new neighbour, a young couple, have been taken a for a ride many times with their tradesman but in particular one guy. I'll not call him a builder or anything else that would have any kind of trade skill as he has installed windows wonky, tried to stick blown render on with silicone and now they have had roofing leaks too that I know the previous neighbours hadn't so for simplicity we'll call this person John Wayne. I had a fall out with the neighbour when John Wayne left roof ladders hooked on the ridge for weeks on end with no work happening then the storms came and they were left hanging onto the roof by the chimney and ready to fall.
Neighbour called me last week as he had leaks coming in from the bedroom bay window. The carpet was soaked even with towels on the window sills. He asked if I could look at it as he was worried with their new born staying in the bedroom with them. I had a quick look and you could see that the bedroom window frame was twisted and despite the opening windows not closing completely (you could feel wind through them) it wasn't leaking from the window itself. Water was literally running down the inside of the window frame from the join with the ceiling. I told him it was probably the flat roof that has failed. We are semi-detached so share the bay window that is about 3 feet deep and lead covered from the 1930's. He thought it might have been the flat roof and already had people coming to quote but was confused by the different types of which two where in his price range, Rubber roof at £1,200 and rubber coated roof (I think this was just rubber painted) at £500 but didn't want to do either unless he was sure it was the roof. I got my endoscope for the iPad and drilled a hole in the ceiling near where the leak was worst but far enough back to see around. Plasterboard had been nailed over the old lat and plaster ceiling and it was now basically mud it had become that wet. After much probing and cleaning the lens I was able to see water coming down one of section of beam before soaking into the plaster and collecting onto on the window frame where it ran down into the bedroom. Further looking around it looks like a wooden plank on the roof, that runs from the corner of the bay window, had been broken. The neighbour was able to see all this as we discovered it and I said that has been recent and probably when he was having the windows fitted, I never saw any props being used when the old windows came out. I told him that as a temporary measure he could borrow my ladders in the morning and look for a split in the lead and fill it with a bitumen product to seal it until he got the roof fixed properly and prevent any further damage. I was asked for my advice on what to replace it with to which I said lead as it's been up there for nearly a century without problem but it will be expensive and fibre glass and EPDM rubber roof. I got a call at the weekend to say the roof was getting replaced on Tuesday which I thought was quick and he was going with EPDM. Yesterday bounced it down and then this afternoon John Wayne gets dropped off with his ladders, sheet of OSB and roll of rubber.
What are the chances of the adhesive working in such cold temperatures and if it fails what are the chances of water damage to my property?
