knife rant

[chunkolini]

There has been lots of knife crime over the last couple of years.
Awful stuff.
But every kid over a certain age should have a penknife.
I bought my boy a proper swiss army knife whe he was 8. This was 6 years ago.
We were on our tandem, we got to Porlock. I knew it were a monster hill to come. The tollroad not the main road, but still a monster hill.
I promised him I'd buy him a penknife if he got up it without complaining.

We got to the top, passing several passed out cyclists. I was close to tears, I had yelled at him a couple of times to pedal harder. But we got there. Aaah.

Next stop there was a shop with cabinet of penknives. The mercenary brat spotted them and fell in love with a Swiss Army Knife. A black one over 20 quid it were. What could I do?

I bought it for him, gave him lots of lectures. No accidents. Still got it, at this age a miracle.

Anyway back on topic. Last year he did his Duke of Edinburgh thing. The brat almost made me cry again. Up those hills , on foot in that weather. Sniff sniff. Then I found out his teachers took his penknife off him, a 'bladed knife'. Ballocks I thought.

This is the official 'tool' the Dof E Swiss Army Tool'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Pocket-Tool/dp/B00243T2KU

Good grief, a swiss army spatula. Political correctness gone mad.
What if you are being strangled by a stray bootlace, need to cut a guy rope or even stab Akela.

What am I saying.

We do live in a sick society, but this kind of knee jerk reactionism aint going to fix it.

Chunko'.

Also see 'what steel thread'

 

[TechnicAl]

I recall getting a bollocking for NOT having a knife

 

[Furry Freak]

My Lad is doing his DoE too and is also now in the Adventure Scouts. He swapped his Victorinox this year for a Whitby 4" sheath knife. No problem at all. I was surprised I have to admit, but no, not a problem at all. Sorry to hear your tale.


FF

 

[M@tt]

I love my Victorinox, I've had 2, the first as a child i must have had for about 15 years, just a basic one with a blade, screwdriver and corkscrew, then when i left my first job after uni to go travelling they all had a whip round for a leaving present for me and my boss said you've got £60 what do you want me to get with it, i said a penknife So he just gave me the cash said go buy the one you want give it to me and we'll give it to you when you leave. So i bought an absoute beauty which i've still got today 10 years later.

Cut myself numerous times as a kid with it sharpening sticks and the like, but as you said every boy should have a penknife!

 

[stormin]

Cut myself numerous times as a kid with it sharpening sticks and the like, but as you said every boy should have a penknife!

A friend of mines favourite saying was "A knife wasn't yours until you'd cut yourself with it!"

 

[Arsonista]

And you have to be 18 to buy a butter knife, because it is called a knife. Mad.

 

[madkayaker]

i once got asked for ID bying tea spoons in tesco as it was "a offesive item" the manager didn't like it when i pointed out his biro in his top pocket was more deadly. the contry is going to pot over the whole knife issue i can see why you would want to stop a "huudy" walking around with an 18inch knife but law abiding people with a pen knife?

 

[rtbcomp]

When I was in the Boy Scouts in the 1960's we carried sheaf knives on our belts.

 

[SwissTony]

Always carried a knife since I was 8 or 9, now 26.
I live out in the countryside, so not to many plod about where I live.
Never had any issues, just have to remember to put it in my back pocket when I walk into the local shop rather than using its pocket clip where its on display.

Knife crime has really kicked off since Labour let in immigrants from countries where its normal for people to carry round knives on display and where knife crimes go unpunished.

 

[pidgeon chit welder]

When I was in the Boy Scouts in the 1960's we carried sheaf knives on our belts.

Snap ,
In 1961 my big bro brought me back from BAOR a birthday prezzie , by way of a knife. It was a 220 mm bladed , stag horned handle jobby from Germany , made of finest Solingen steel .. had an edge like a razor and kept it for ages once stropped up.

I eventually ( 2004 ish ) used up the blade and when the blade was down to about an inch and a half I binned it .

What really hacks me off is that I now have two small pocket knives .. one a 3 1/2 bladed Browning logo'd lock knife with light tight grained carbonized bamboo faces and one 2 inch blade Japanese lock knife with fantastic walnut burr faces , both are now illegal to have or carry without just cause , apparently you do actually need to prove that need if you are carrying them in your pocket when out and about in town.

I have to keep my kitchen fish filleting knife in the rucksack or seat box even out on the beach when sea fishing in the middle of nowhere to be legal as it has a nine inch blade . Same if on the pier, use it and put it right back in the sheathe then in the bag or box, no having it handy on a chopping board next to a bait fish .

 

[Welderpaul]

Worked in a category A prison once. They would happily let us in with grinders, sledge hammers, 5' crowbars etc, but would confiscate tea spoons, paperclips, metal pens if they found them in your bag when we were searched each day.
Took a tea spoon of the crane driver when we turned up on the first day. Surely the cons would be more interested in a 50T mobile crane than a tea spoon if they were going to try to escape?
Sense didnt seem to be a skill many people possessed in that place. 'By the book' city.

 

[pidgeon chit welder]

Worked in a category A prison once. They would happily let us in with grinders, sledge hammers, 5' crowbars etc, but would confiscate tea spoons, paperclips, metal pens if they found them in your bag when we were searched each day.
Took a tea spoon of the crane driver when we turned up on the first day. Surely the cons would be more interested in a 50T mobile crane than a tea spoon if they were going to try to escape?
Sense didnt seem to be a skill many people possessed in that place. 'By the book' city.

Well it is a bit hard to hide the kit you describe and sneak it away for use at a later date.

 

[madkayaker]

sounds about right

 

[drjim]

My 2 year old daughter was looking at some iggle piggle cutlery in mothercare, but shouldn't have been as the packaging clearly stated it was restricted sale to over 18's as it had a knife in it.

We are talking about plastic handle metal blade childrens cutlery - not even sharp.

Thanks Mr Blair

 

[chunkolini]

It is a ridiculous scenario, but there was a spate a couple of years back of horrifying stabbings, my wifes nephew was a tragic victim of this in Nottingham.

Anyway, teaspoons are an offensive item, some of the souvenir ones are hideous.
Exposing toddlers to cutlery? has anybody done a risk assessment about this one. Shocking, my boy almost stabbed me with a spoon when he was about 2.

Swisstony says 'Knife crime has really kicked off since Labour let in immigrants from countries where its normal for people to carry round knives on display and where knife crimes go unpunished.' Good grief.
Do you read The Daily Mail?

Chunko'.

 

[the snooper]

There has been lots of knife crime over the last couple of years.
Awful stuff.

I bought my boy a proper swiss army knife whe he was 8.

there is nothing wrong at all with knives its the idiots that carry them, if the children are brought up well and taught to value things and respect others then we will never hear of those people
its the rest that make the news

i find that kids that look after and treausre their belongings dont go far wrong in life.

 

[Uniqueusername]

I'm not going to comment, I'll just go off on one and i'm already on beta-blockers........

 

[the snooper]

looks like you already have or i couldnt read it

 

[lexi]

The comment about immigrants is like saying violence only started when TV came around

Coming from Glasgows Gorbals, knife crime has been around a long time in modern society .

Times change and that is it. You used to go bareheaded on motorbikes too remember.

I don't think it is an offence to gut a fish yet . Maybe you wont be able to do that on the pier for fear of offending peeps shortly

 

[MrFluffy]

I have to remember to unpack my trusty thumb flick before travelling back to the uk. Mostly I try not to go and that fixes any worry about what Im carrying that might be possibly be dangerous... I think the locals would be shocked to find a kid of 14 round here who didnt own a pocket penknife, but there again you could buy shotgun carts from the supermarket without identification until a year or two back...