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That means the penny has finally dropped with the bean counters after many years of utter stupidity, they have at last worked out its cheaper to have a free tip than to send out crews clearing up fly tipped material from laybys and country lanes
Makes you wonder why the 1st of jan, they will be facing huge amounts of gear dumped over the Christmas break
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Exactlythey have at last worked out its cheaper to have a free tip than to send out crews clearing up fly tipped material from laybys and country lanes
Although some local councils are already saying they don't have the money to process.
DIY waste fee ban will cost Hampshire £2m, council warns
The government has banned councils from charging residents to dispose of DIY waste.
www.bbc.co.uk
10 quid for a sheet of plasterboard! - no wonder...
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But what is the ofset cost to remove the fly tipping from lay-by country roads and ditches ? they have not given a overall costExactly
DIY waste fee ban will cost Hampshire £2m, council warns
The government has banned councils from charging residents to dispose of DIY waste.
10 quid for a sheet of plasterboard! - no wonder...
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loads of stuff goes in the wheely bins and gets offloaded when you work in flats and there bins are nearly empty 
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Nothing compared to the cost of clearing up flytipped waste. Its the gov that introduced the sh1tfest landfill tax which makes everything so expensive to deal with, perhaps they should relax that and add it to the road fund licences.Exactly
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all they will do is up your local council tax to pay for it
for those that do fly tip they should loose the vehicle that there driving get a fine and also do the clean up of what they dumped
as it is a crime
the same can be said for scrappers enter a property and remove goods should be rewarded with lost vehicle and also a fine
it will stop alot of issues
can you imagine that large 18 ton vehicle being removed from the company and sold then the driver has to clean up there mess as well
so thats 18 ton of building material all to be skipped by the person as well as each skip has to be paid for for the clean up and then also the fine as well
the company is going to be peeved as lost the vehicle the worker is fired no body will touch that worker as totaly black listed
for those that do fly tip they should loose the vehicle that there driving get a fine and also do the clean up of what they dumped
as it is a crime
the same can be said for scrappers enter a property and remove goods should be rewarded with lost vehicle and also a fine
it will stop alot of issues
can you imagine that large 18 ton vehicle being removed from the company and sold then the driver has to clean up there mess as well
so thats 18 ton of building material all to be skipped by the person as well as each skip has to be paid for for the clean up and then also the fine as well
the company is going to be peeved as lost the vehicle the worker is fired no body will touch that worker as totaly black listed
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Great news about stopping charging for DIY waste, thanks for the update @Gragson
Link to official Gov site https://www.gov.uk/government/news/council-diy-waste-charges-abolishedMy ex worked as a countryside ranger (mobile park warden) when they first brought in the "charge for DIY waste" at our local tips.
She noticed the rapid increase in fly tipping first hand as part of her job was reporting any new sightings to the council for cleanup.
She asked and was told the recycling centers thought it was great as they were charging residents where in the past the council tax had always paid for the work.
Clearing the flytipping wasn't their problem as is was a different department so the cost for that didn't come out of the recycling center budget
This isn't the place to share the rest of our discussion but PM me if you want to know more
Will that also apply to fire extinguishers?
I partly used a dry powder extinguisher a few weeks ago, and then when I checked about a week later it had totally discharged. I was at the time wondering why they charge for a pressure vessel but take scrap metal for free. What's to stop me cutting it up and calling it scrap?
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Nothing.
Same as windows. Glass is free. Wood is free. Alloy is free. Windows with frames are charged.
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Will this include old motorcycle tyres, its DIY waste from my bike
Local HWRC have a rule of appointments only for households, and vans are not allowed, even hire vans.
If you turn up in a van they treat it as commercial and make you pay and also insist on a licence fee or something.
Easy and nice way, is find a local council tipper truck on a bin/fly tip round and ask nicely if you can add to their collection. Makes it look as if they have done more so they are happy (provided you load it!).
When I did council work recently on grass team, we also had a few fly tip rounds. The worst was some dumped wooden furniture in a woodland brambles. Some kind resident had decided they needed a number2 and rather than getting stung by brambles, they would go on top of this flytip. Guess who was clearing this flytip and did not notice them smell until it was too late. I am glad I was wearing thick waterproof leather gloves!!
Local HWRC have a rule of appointments only for households, and vans are not allowed, even hire vans.
If you turn up in a van they treat it as commercial and make you pay and also insist on a licence fee or something.
Easy and nice way, is find a local council tipper truck on a bin/fly tip round and ask nicely if you can add to their collection. Makes it look as if they have done more so they are happy (provided you load it!).
When I did council work recently on grass team, we also had a few fly tip rounds. The worst was some dumped wooden furniture in a woodland brambles. Some kind resident had decided they needed a number2 and rather than getting stung by brambles, they would go on top of this flytip. Guess who was clearing this flytip and did not notice them smell until it was too late. I am glad I was wearing thick waterproof leather gloves!!
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It will be like the old system, 12 visits per year on a marked green card...we used to pay lads £50 to get themselves a card at there house address and stick them in our vans 
junkies,bagheads and anyone who had an address, lads at the tip knew what was going on but could not do a thing about it as technically we were moving rubbish from a registered card holders house.
junkies,bagheads and anyone who had an address, lads at the tip knew what was going on but could not do a thing about it as technically we were moving rubbish from a registered card holders house.
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Probably as much to do with all the plasterboard that gets put into landfill via the routes many have mentioned above. Breaks down to form Hydrogen Sulphide (iirc). That's why there's a specialist (and expensive) route for it to take for processing.
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Any link to this ruling as I can only find it referring to Hampshire Council
Council DIY waste charges abolished
Charges to dispose of DIY waste at household waste recycling centres will be removed.
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Council DIY waste charges abolished
Charges to dispose of DIY waste at household waste recycling centres will be removed.www.gov.uk
I found that one...
This is what it says -
Note the date.
