Movie's film and machinery

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Sat chilling out last night watching some film on TV...and I just had to pause it as I was shouting look at the faffn size of that camel back drill in the background!!!! I want it !!!

 

[Guineafowl]

‘Buyer to arrange collection’.

 

[fizzy]

Interesting story behind the Holbrook H20 - of which I now have 2.
They only made 134 of them.
From the records a friend of mine has he saw that 15 of them went out to Russia. I wondered why they were given an export licence at the time. Early 1960s was at the height of the cold war.
I was watching a film the other day called "The Courier" with Benedict Cumberbatch - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Courier_(2020_film).
I had heard the story before. Back in the 1980s there was a documentary on it.
Greville Wynne - a British businessman selling machine tools - was approached by MI6 to deal with a Russian GRU official Oleg Penkovsky. He was very concerned that we were on the edge of nuclear war due to the Cuban missile crisis.
Basically the British government allowed the sale of machine tools to go through as a cover for Greville Wynne travelling back and fore. I nearly fell out of my chair when I heard this. So that's why Holbrooks were sent to Russia - Rolls Royce aero engines had the H20 so MIG wanted them as well
Film didn't show any of this of course.
It really is well worth watching. 2 very brave men!

 

[fizzy]

Oh and here is my nice little drill - not quite as big as the one in the picture but not bad all the same.

 

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Oh and here is my nice little drill - not quite as big as the one in the picture but not bad all the same.

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Still a nice bit of kit mate

 

[Erie Fred]

Oh and here is my nice little drill - not quite as big as the one in the picture but not bad all the same.

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Those straps, the bolts, and the pallet are just "wishfull thinking".
Need proper 6x6 timbers cross wise bolted thru the base holes,
as they are very top heavy.
At least it did make it home unscathed.

 

[fizzy]

Those straps, the bolts, and the pallet are just "wishfull thinking".
Need proper 6x6 timbers cross wise bolted thru the base holes,
as they are very top heavy.
At least it did make it home unscathed.

The pallet was a heavy duty 120x120 or 4' x 4' so more stable. There was a sheet of ply and then bolted down. Strap was for show. Not top heavy. Table wound as low as it would go. Vice placed on pallet. Motor is huge and very heavy. Pretty safe I do this all the time. Centre of gravity is everything.

Here is a photo from the other side.

 

[fizzy]

That steel plate bolted to the round table must weigh about 60kg on it's own - or say 130lbs.
And that huge vice about the same.

 

[Erie Fred]

The pallet was a heavy duty 120x120 or 4' x 4' so more stable. Their was a sheet of ply and then bolted down. Strap was for show. Not top heavy. Table wound as low as it would go. Vice placed on pallet. Motor is huge and very heavy. Pretty safe I do this all the time. Centre of gravity is everything.

I agree.
However, I had very similar, but motor up top.
I sold it off, and moved up to a 1970's Tiawan small radial drill 3' arm or so.
On that one I bought 2 6x6x8' timbers and bolted them underneath thru the bolt down holes, extending out on the sides a good 2'-3', as the CG could never get low enough for the skinny base.
Much better use of shop footprint, and better all around.

 

[fizzy]

I agree.
However, I had very similar, but motor up top.
I sold it off, and moved up to a 1970's Tiawan small radial drill 3' arm or so.
On that one I bought 2 6x6x8' timbers and bolted them underneath thru the bolt down holes, extending out on the sides a good 2'-3', as the CG could never get low enough for the skinny base.
Much better use of shop footprint, and better all around.

This one is pretty sophisticated for the 1920s. Power feed and tapping.
And such lovely original condition. Inches of grease have kept it rust free!

 

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This one is pretty sophisticated for the 1920s. Power feed and tapping.
And such lovely original condition. Inches of grease have kept it rust free!

Should be in my collection

 

[Erie Fred]

This one is pretty sophisticated for the 1920s. Power feed and tapping.
And such lovely original condition. Inches of grease have kept it rust free!

That one looks very similar to the one my weld shop friend had (that one that center punched so hard he didn't really need the drill)

He had a hard time getting large pieces of steel to slide over to the punch mark,
so needed them "extra big".
That's one reason why I like a small Radial drill over these machines.

 

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Bigger the better I say....I got to make a start stripping down my asquith pillar drill soon...am dreading it...

 

[Erie Fred]

Bigger the better I say....I got to make a start stripping down my asquith pillar drill soon...am dreading it...

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That looks allot like what I had.
CinnCinnati Bickford was the brand.

 

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That looks allot like what I had.
CinnCinnati Bickford was the brand.

Cincinnati made some awesome machinery

 

[Erie Fred]

Cincinnati made some awesome machinery

I have seen used machinery that were made on License in the UK, somehow came over here.
Nameplates like "CinnCinnati-Clausing" (not a real one, just couldn't think of the many that I have seen)
Bridgeport licensed the most I have seen.

 

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I have seen used machinery that were made on License in the UK, somehow came over here.
Nameplates like "CinnCinnati-Clausing" (not a real one, just couldn't think of the many that I have seen)
Bridgeport licensed the most I have seen.

Yes indeed. It's the same as my churchill redman lathe. It's a monarch CK12. Churchill redman had a license deal with monarch back in the day..

 

[fizzy]

I have seen used machinery that were made on License in the UK, somehow came over here.
Nameplates like "CinnCinnati-Clausing" (not a real one, just couldn't think of the many that I have seen)
Bridgeport licensed the most I have seen.

Most of the Clausings were just rebadged Colchesters.
The CVA lathe which I have is very closely related to the monarch 10EE. so much so the steadies are interchangeable.
Brown and Sharpe worked closely with jones and Shipman. In fact J+S bought them out at some stage.
Old British and American machines were in a league of their own.
Some Hendey lathes were similar to old Holbrooks. Very high quality.

 

[Erie Fred]

Yabutt !
How did these come over here ?
They don't float to well.
I would have to guess that the license arrangment precluded
any sales in direct competition of the original manuf/designer.

 

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It would be brilliant if they did float....instead of boats full of foreigners we could float machinery across and not pay the dreaded