Vivaro e electric van.

[Alan Reynolds]

Well done Vauxhall. The van has no key, just an app. Easy peasy, except if your in a poor signal area, it won’t switch on or off.

 

[m_c]

Well done Vauxhall PSA. The van has no key, just an app. Easy peasy, except if your in a poor signal area, it won’t switch on or off.

Fixed that for you.
Vauxhall's are now just rebadged PSA's. Only difference from the Peugeot/Citroen offerings are the badges.

 

[Bullet2012]

Blimey , do not tell mr soda stream it will just add to his vitriolic comments about anything non Dino juice powered that he cannot hook around in.

 

[cheb]

A friend of mine is about to fall out with Volvo for similar reasons. Poor connectivity caused a borked upgarde and has resulted in an immobilised car. It has to go to a main dealer to be reset. The nearest dealer that can do it is about 150 miles away. Then there's small matter of a ferry crossing. The car is less than one month old.

 

[HydrocarbonPrimate]

Well that's one way to save some carbons

 

[mike os]

Blimey , do not tell mr soda stream it will just add to his vitriolic comments about anything non Dino juice powered that he cannot hook around in.

You know Dino juice is plant based ? So it’s actually as green as you can get

 

[Pond frog]

To put a positive spin on it it will save you from getting stuck in a low signal area as you can’t turn it off.
I think the marketing department could use that as a selling point

 

[Bullet2012]

You know Dino juice is plant based ? So it’s actually as green as you can get

True but plant rot juice doesn’t sound as good

 

[Kayos]

Oh no, not like petrol cars never break down?

My Golf changed the radio station to Radio 1 Xtra the other morning, I penned a stern letter to the Telegraph to voice my disgust

 

[cheb]

The Volvo is a petrol vehicle. I also know others who've had similar problems just as the vehicle comes out of warranty.

 

[Gragson]

My Volvo hybrid has had way more updates in a year than my iPhone - so far so good

 

[slim_boy_fat]

My Volvo hybrid has had way more updates in a year than my iPhone - so far so good

Try living in a 'signally challenged' area.....

 

[GRW]

The simple answer is we shouldn't be getting unnecessary tech foisted on us by govts or by Mfrs.
I'm tempted though to say that if a buyer is daft enough (& gullible enough) to buy a vehicle that DEPENDS on connectivity to function - then that buyer has got the vehicle he deserves.
No-one NEEDS a vehicle that opens, locks and operates via an App. It's a pointless gizmo, a worthless trinket with no real benefit but a much greater risk of unreliability - and you don't need to be Einstein to forsee the issues either.
A fool and their money etc....

 

[CompoSimmonite]

Fixed that for you.
Vauxhall's are now just rebadged PSA's. Only difference from the Peugeot/Citroen offerings are the badges.

The Combo is a Fiat Doblo

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Oh no, not like petrol cars never break down?

My Golf changed the radio station to Radio 1 Xtra the other morning, I penned a stern letter to the Telegraph to voice my disgust

My van told me there was a BBC wales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[malcolm]

Normally there are a few different levels of entry. The app some might find useful. Normally there is also some sort of e-key in the form of a thick card, then for when the battery goes flat with all the electrics there should be a physical key.

I don't like any of that nonsense either - don't fancy trying to fix that stuff 20 years on. My van is a Renault 4. The end fell off the key but the remaining stub still seems to work perfectly well.

 

[GRW]

Normally there are a few different levels of entry. The app some might find useful. Normally there is also some sort of e-key in the form of a thick card, then for when the battery goes flat with all the electrics there should be a physical key.

I don't like any of that nonsense either. My van is a Renault 4. The end fell off the key but the remaining stub still seems to work perfectly well.

Renault 4! Fabulous things. Basic, utilitarian, functional, reliable - it does what it's needed to do, without fuss, frills or even a hint of frippery. Its perfectly fit for purpose, an honest workhorse.
I'd love one.

 

[indy4x]

The simple answer is we shouldn't be getting unnecessary tech foisted on us by govts or by Mfrs.
I'm tempted though to say that if a buyer is daft enough (& gullible enough) to buy a vehicle that DEPENDS on connectivity to function - then that buyer has got the vehicle he deserves.
No-one NEEDS a vehicle that opens, locks and operates via an App. It's a pointless gizmo, a worthless trinket with no real benefit but a much greater risk of unreliability - and you don't need to be Einstein to forsee the issues either.
A fool and their money etc....

I quite like my tech but yes, having no key is mental


But


Having an app as well has its uses


Just an instance, me and wife went away recently, I have a Jag Ipace, all electric etc. It has a key and you cannot drive it without the key so nothing special there.

It also has an app, from the app I can carryout certain functions, one of which is remote lock/unlock. We spent a day in Aberystwyth, there was stuff we did together and some things where we would go our separate ways. Wife was back at the car 1st so I was able to remotely unlock it so she could put her gear in the car


Not essential but a nice feature


Again, not an essential feature, I can turn on the climate control remotely. If the car is iced up it will defrost it, if its a baking hot day it will cool down

Nice to haves, are not on my list of essential features but if it's got them may as well use it

 

[indy4x]

My van told me there was a BBC wales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is, its OK sometimes

 

[Gragson]

A friend of mine is about to fall out with Volvo for similar reasons. Poor connectivity caused a borked upgarde and has resulted in an immobilised car. It has to go to a main dealer to be reset. The nearest dealer that can do it is about 150 miles away. Then there's small matter of a ferry crossing. The car is less than one month old.

Was at a volvo dealership when their update system went down and a left few cars stuck on the ramps, was told I could wait, passed and asked for my fob back - not a mechanical key, but not an app.
Personally not against this tech at all, it will come and get more reliable and as said all cars break down for all sorts of reasons - this is just a new one

As the great Gerry R would sing - if you get it wrong you'll get it right next time - just hope the mnfrs stay on it.