Where are you in the U.K. I’m midlands based near CoventryCast iron. Only two methods that are guaranteed to work.
Gas brazing with bronze & flux or gas welding with pure cast iron rod.
Neither particularly cheap and both require a skilled hand.
I'd happily have a go at brazing it, but the rods are getting on for £8 a piece.
I do have the cast iron rods but have not tried the process yet.
Not particularly close. Essex I am.Where are you in the U.K. I’m midlands based near Coventry
Looks to have horrible leverage on a weak looking section for that moving jaw. I guess the current repair are the two bolts top and bottom of the screw?
Would seem to have potential to have reinforcement bolted on each side - but as others have said, not sure I'd want to be relying on it.
It’s mostly used by Luther’s for detail and work and for carving so very light work I think it may have been dropped potentially as there not fully fixed downI'm not seeing a repair. I'm just saying it looks like it has been broken for some time, apparently broken but still "useable".
It is broken exactly where you might expect it to go but since this is really a woodworking vice and not a mechanics vice, it would ordinarily be used for much lighter duty than anything I might have in my shed(!). Chances are someone at some stage has taken it beyond its design parameter.
For example, we all know we shouldn't be using a vice as a press but of course, we all do anyway. This type of vice has a very high jaw to provide sufficient grip on a wide plank without marring the workpiece. That inevitably leads to a very high leverage at the failure point on anything that might be clamped just in the top section of the jaw or god forbid, clamped up tight and hit with a hammer.
Yeah went to a place and said it’s be £600 for the repair and the vice was £47 lolThat is a beautiful vice, well worth saving. Not gonna be a cheap repair though!
My friends is this black one an original think the patent was bought out but you can see the are that was repaired on this and this one was made in 1910I'm with you now. It does look like a repair with those bolts as you suggest. I had assumed they were retaining bolts for a front plate holding the main screw in place. But I don't think a vice of this design would have that (plus there's a taper pin retaining the main screw).
If it was me, I'd use those preexisting bolts to hold the part during brazing but fully weld or braze the repair and lose the bolt heads.
Yeah think that’s the repair someone has made so may just need to live with it as getting it to be like new wouldn’t be feasible unless someone is highly skilled .If the two bolts at the front are holding it together, does it need a structural repair?
The material removed to make the bolt holes has reduced and thus weakened the cross-section. So the bolts would still need to remain even after a really good braze job.
If the bolts are enough for it to function properly, strip the paint, fill the cracks with the flexible filler used for car bumpers and try it for a week.
If the cracks reappear, re-engineer the bolting system (e.g. convert to studs loctited into the casting and a fine thread at the nut end) so it provides more preload.
Yeah went to a place and said it’s be £600 for the repair and the vice was £47 lol
Yeah think that’s the repair someone has made so may just need to live with it as getting it to be like new wouldn’t be feasible unless someone is highly skilled .
This filler stuff is it a two part mix stuff or just a standard types body filler
Thankyou I’ll check it out and I guess it’s what different people see there time is worth which is rare enoughI'm not going to second guess a price for repair but I recommend you take @Brad93 up on his offer and see what he can do. We're all vice fans around here and that's a particularly nice example.
Forget about epoxy glue/filler until you need to perform some cosmetic duty.
I want to master this process. What is the brand of these cast iron rods. They say they are no longer made.I do have the cast iron rods but have not tried the process yet.