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What, where, how much?
Shut up and take my money
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That 10 year old laptop "you" have stashed away. It was still working but got slower and slower under Windows until you got fed up and bought another from the nice man at PC World...now gathering dust somewhere.
Dig it out and put Zorin OS on it. One of the most Windows like Linux experiences out there. Even on the free version you can "skin" it to make the interface look like Windows or Mac. Even more options under the paid for version).
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Happy to point anyone at how to make a "live" disc or stick.
It'll likely even enable you to get all those lost photos etc off the laptop.
(Will work on desktops too).
I'd agree about Mint Linux though. It's really crisp.
Dig it out and put Zorin OS on it. One of the most Windows like Linux experiences out there. Even on the free version you can "skin" it to make the interface look like Windows or Mac. Even more options under the paid for version).
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Happy to point anyone at how to make a "live" disc or stick.
It'll likely even enable you to get all those lost photos etc off the laptop.
(Will work on desktops too).
I'd agree about Mint Linux though. It's really crisp.
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I have just googled Linux and it all sounds a bit like sorcery to me, I will ask the lad that sorts our computors out to have a look at that.
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I cannot see why everyone is so 'laptop'
They are horrible in my eyes,
Small, fiddley little things, tiny screens, with horrible keyboards.
The only thing they have going for them, they are mobile,
I don't compute away from home, so have no need of one,
And as for Win 11, oh well, when it comes to the crunch time.
And yes, and it does come down to money
Linux,
I have thought of this many of times,
I will have a look Onoff
They are horrible in my eyes,
Small, fiddley little things, tiny screens, with horrible keyboards.
The only thing they have going for them, they are mobile,
I don't compute away from home, so have no need of one,
And as for Win 11, oh well, when it comes to the crunch time.
And yes, and it does come down to money
Linux,
I have thought of this many of times,
I will have a look Onoff
It seems like that but once you look at it in a bit of detail it becomes clear. Its because its all opensource - it just isnt package like a commercial product thats all.I have just googled Linux and it all sounds a bit like sorcery to me, I will ask the lad that sorts our computors out to have a look at that.
Bob
Mint is probably the least programmery out of all of the offerings and closest to seeming familiar to a windows interface.
ETA - just read Onoff's post I havent tried Zorin, but might give it a try.
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All this stuff about Windows 11... working fine for me when I start the car!
The reason I have steered clear of Linux is because I use Windows programs paid for lifetime versions in many cases. (I hate monthly fees)
So will things like Affinity Designer and Affinity Photo still work on Linux.
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I cannot see why everyone is so 'laptop'
They are horrible in my eyes,
Small, fiddley little things, tiny screens, with horrible keyboards.
The only thing they have going for them, they are mobile,
I don't compute away from home, so have no need of one,
And as for Win 11, oh well, when it comes to the crunch time.
And yes, and it does come down to money
Linux,
I have thought of this many of times,
I will have a look Onoff
You are looking at the wrong laptops, yes my GPD fits that description but my 17" ThinkPad is none of those things
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I think for most people it's not so much "away from home" as anywhere in the home. With a desktop you're fixed to the desk, with a laptop you can sit at a desk if you want, or go and sit on the sofa, take it in the kitchen to follow a recipe online, go out to the workshop with a taredown guide, etc etc. I didn't have a desk at home for about ten years so the only option was a laptop and sit at the dining table, easy to put away and clear the table to eat.
As Kayos says, you're looking at the wrong laptops, I've got a 15" screen which is just about perfect for a HD monitor in my opinion, and the best keyboard of any computer I've ever used. Ninety percent of the time now I do use it at a desk, with a big second monitor and a mouse, as if it were a desktop, but I wouldn't give up the freedom to take it somewhere else. That's just what best suits me (And apparently most people), but there's loads of people who would argue to the death that desktops are superior because laptops are overpriced and unupgradable. Loads of people think tablets/iPads are great. Horses for courses, my brother only has a phone, it does everything he needs.
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I remember a friend and I were trying to use an ATM in Walmart, in the States a good few years ago. It seemed to lock up mid transaction, so he pressed a bunch of random keys and it went blank, then up popped the Windows opening screen and start up chimes.
I'd have imagined they'd run on some sort of special software, but obviously not.
Then a security guard came over and moved us on.
I'm not enough of an expert to know (i'm not a linux expert at all but can get a functioning system that does all i need so that says how easy it is for a novice to setup!). Loads of forums offer linux support. It also allows a dual install so if you have programmes that can only run on windows you just select to boot windows at startup.
I wouldnt be suprised if there is some clever windows emulator within linux just for the reasons you describe but again I dont know enough to be sure.
So a quick google suggests there are options. As you can run as a dual boot system, you can try all this without deleting windows first.
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XP was supported with security patches long after it was officially not supoported only because a lot of terminals ran it including cash points, ticket machines, digital signage, lots of stuff.I remember a friend and I were trying to use an ATM in Walmart, in the States a good few years ago. It seemed to lock up mid transaction, so he pressed a bunch of random keys and it went blank, then up popped the Windows opening screen and start up chimes.
I'd have imagined they'd run on some sort of special software, but obviously not.
Then a security guard came over and moved us on.
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@Edward Teach whilst im not a lover of laptops they have there uses only on bigger screens anything under 14" isnt worth buying for me
they are handy for travel and using one and ive done it this way
but i will soon steer back to the main base unit but thats down to preference both the laptop and notebook hardly get used after that as i bought both better than watching on a phone
laptops wasnt upgradable but they are nowadays with certain models still, cpu, gcard and memory can all be upgraded on them
ipads and tablets cant be upgraded
Microsoft has provided an embedded version of windows for a long time, and you'd be surprised where it's actually used, as you'll often never know that's what is providing the backend.I remember a friend and I were trying to use an ATM in Walmart, in the States a good few years ago. It seemed to lock up mid transaction, so he pressed a bunch of random keys and it went blank, then up popped the Windows opening screen and start up chimes.
I'd have imagined they'd run on some sort of special software, but obviously not.
Then a security guard came over and moved us on.
Windows embedded is quite like basic Linux, in that you generally start with an absolute barebones OS, then add what features you actually need, compared to consumer windows where you're essentially getting a standard install of features MS think that most users need, which is essentially what the precompiled Linux distros (I.e. Mint) are as well (basic Linux core, with various packages added to create a 'consumer' OS)
From a manufacturers standpoint, Windows embedded is actually a pretty good choice. You can develop software using common desktop tools, while having the commercial support of a major OS provider.
I quite like C#, but then I'm one of those who just understood OOP.
I spent far too much time following various tutorials that made OOP out to be some hard to understand thing, and thought I just didn't get it, until I finally realised, I'd understood it from the start and the tutorials had confused me
