Timber prices

[Cato]

The doors at the workshop need replacing as they're past their best to say the least. It's rented from the council, so knowing what they're like I decided it'd be quicker, a much better job and a lot less hassle just to make them myself.

I have a load of scaffold board which are getting in the way at the container, so run them through the thicknesser to get decent faces on will get me nice solid doors from decent timber and also clear some storage room. For the frames I went to the local timber merchants and asked what hardwood they have in 4" x 3" and for them to run a 40 mm rebate into it. They had some nice sapele which will do the trick, given the lengths they had I've ended up with six 2500 mm lengths which will allow me to put some nice chunky tenons to join the heads. Including the £30 set up for the rebate it's £480:00 Chuck in the hardware (bearing hinges, hinge protection bolts, bar keeps, shot bolts, coach bolts etc) and a set of blades for the thicknesser I doubt there'll be much change out of a grand even with my 'free' labour.

That said, it's a whole lot cheaper than replacing the contents, and alongside the peace of mind it will no doubt help with insurance.

I dread to think what the cost would be to make a set of barn doors or similar for a nice barn conversion.

 

[gaz1]

easy enough to build them

 

[Cato]

easy enough to build them

Building anything is 'easy' as it's a process. I dread to think what the timber used in those doors would cost at current prices.

 

[tom2207]

The price of everything these days is getting crazy ,,, Imagine if you had to pay time too , Im guessing a lot of projects wont be getting started let alone finished.

 

[Cato]

The price of everything these days is getting crazy ,,, Imagine if you had to pay time too , Im guessing a lot of projects wont be getting started let alone finished.

Talking to the trades a lot of stuff is getting cancelled. A chippy was saying he'd had a dormer conversion to a bungalow cancelled because the customer had remortgaged to pay for it and by the time the money came through there was a five figure shortfall due to price increases.

 

[slim_boy_fat]

I dread to think what the timber used in those doors would cost at current prices.

Well, wood doesn't grow on trees you know.....

 

[octo0072000]

better check with the council to see if you are allowed to replace the doors
some council house tenants have to put the house back to council standards when they leave or have to pay
not sure on commercial property

 

[Cato]

better check with the council to see if you are allowed to replace the doors
some council house tenants have to put the house back to council standards when they leave or have to pay
not sure on commercial property

I emailed the bloke that looks after the units (job title is surveyor ) as the lease does say it must be kept as is or returned to it. As they'll be timber and I'm replacing doors with doors, albeit much better than the existing then he's fine with it. I made sure to do it by email to have a trail. The only issue will be paint to match the others, but I'll just treat the timber and give it a few coats of acrylic primer.

Then they can deal with the top coat. Eventually, after several planning meetings, and submitting the budget and request in triplicate, waiting for Mr Trimble to come back from long term sick leave and sign it off, then allocating it to a contractor, who then sub-contracts it, the sub-contractor turning up with blue paint instead of green, returning the paint after completing an exception report, finding that the supplier doesn't have the correct shade of green, putting the job out to tender because the original contractor has gone into receivership due to late payments from the council.

I'd ask for the paint code/RAL number and do it myself but I don't have a week to put together the required method statement and risk assessment.

 

[Alan Reynolds]

I emailed the bloke that looks after the units (job title is surveyor ) as the lease does say it must be kept as is or returned to it. As they'll be timber and I'm replacing doors with doors, albeit much better than the existing then he's fine with it. I made sure to do it by email to have a trail. The only issue will be paint to match the others, but I'll just treat the timber and give it a few coats of acrylic primer.

Then they can deal with the top coat. Eventually, after several planning meetings, and submitting the budget and request in triplicate, waiting for Mr Trimble to come back from long term sick leave and sign it off, then allocating it to a contractor, who then sub-contracts it, the sub-contractor turning up with blue paint instead of green, returning the paint after completing an exception report, finding that the supplier doesn't have the correct shade of green, putting the job out to tender because the original contractor has gone into receivership due to late payments from the council.

I'd ask for the paint code/RAL number and do it myself but I don't have a week to put together the required method statement and risk assessment.

A friend of mine lives in a council maisonette and the couple next door had completely refurbished their place with new kitchen, bathroom, laminate flooring and carpets but due to a family crisis, had to move away. The council came in and gutted the whole place. A criminal waste as the family who moved in were deprived of a lovely home.

 

[octo0072000]

I emailed the bloke that looks after the units (job title is surveyor ) as the lease does say it must be kept as is or returned to it. As they'll be timber and I'm replacing doors with doors, albeit much better than the existing then he's fine with it. I made sure to do it by email to have a trail. The only issue will be paint to match the others, but I'll just treat the timber and give it a few coats of acrylic primer.

Then they can deal with the top coat. Eventually, after several planning meetings, and submitting the budget and request in triplicate, waiting for Mr Trimble to come back from long term sick leave and sign it off, then allocating it to a contractor, who then sub-contracts it, the sub-contractor turning up with blue paint instead of green, returning the paint after completing an exception report, finding that the supplier doesn't have the correct shade of green, putting the job out to tender because the original contractor has gone into receivership due to late payments from the council.

I'd ask for the paint code/RAL number and do it myself but I don't have a week to put together the required method statement and risk assessment.

typical council cockups

 

[8ob]

The price of everything these days is getting crazy ,,, Imagine if you had to pay time too , Im guessing a lot of projects wont be getting started let alone finished.

Globalism and our quest for "cheap" has over the years killed off uk production of things like coal, steel and timber products. No easy way of kick starting that lot so we just have to suck it up. Most of the sawmills that have shut down in recent years would be having it off right now and would have a bright future, as would the steel mills.

Bob

 

[octo0072000]

A friend of mine lives in a council maisonette and the couple next door had completely refurbished their place with new kitchen, bathroom, laminate flooring and carpets but due to a family crisis, had to move away. The council came in and gutted the whole place. A criminal waste as the family who moved in were deprived of a lovely home.

that's normal a total waste but that's how they do it all must be to council standards not yours

 

[Cato]

Globalism and our quest for "cheap" has over the years killed off uk production of things like coal, steel and timber products. No easy way of kick starting that lot so we just have to suck it up. Most of the sawmills that have shut down in recent years would be having it off right now and would have a bright future, as would the steel mills.

Bob

We needed some forged brackets a couple of years back, nothing special but they had to match existing for the conservation officer. Couldn't find a blacksmith for miles who wasn't either a farrier or producing art, sculpture or something with "bespoke" in the description.

 

[Parm]

Mate of mine builds high end speaker cabinets for Pro Audio use. He’s spent quite a few years building his business and is one of the best out there

His supply of 18mm ply has virtually dried up. Has no idea what he’s going to do next

 

[Cobbler]

A friend of mine lives in a council maisonette and the couple next door had completely refurbished their place with new kitchen, bathroom, laminate flooring and carpets but due to a family crisis, had to move away. The council came in and gutted the whole place. A criminal waste as the family who moved in were deprived of a lovely home.

Sounds a bit like someone I heard of, wanted to by their council house, council came to inspect it & gave a price. Tennant said “how come my house is x number of thousands more than the one next door” council said “yours is nicer, you’ve done it up”

 

[tom2207]

Mate of mine builds high end speaker cabinets for Pro Audio use. He’s spent quite a few years building his business and is one of the best out there

His supply of 18mm ply has virtually dried up. Has no idea what he’s going to do next

who might that be then ?

 

[RaceDiagnostics]

Spent £1000 yesterday on studs, ply and plasterboard, for virtually nothing, would have been £250 for the lot 5 years ago

 

[Cato]

Mate of mine builds high end speaker cabinets for Pro Audio use. He’s spent quite a few years building his business and is one of the best out there

His supply of 18mm ply has virtually dried up. Has no idea what he’s going to do next

At the moment he might want to look into 18 mm moisture board. It's dense MDF, green in colour and we started using it when we couldn't get ply as it's the same price as decent ply @ £50:00 a sheet. Aside from being much more stable it cuts really well and also takes coatings better as it's not as porous/absorbent. It seems to be about in reasonable amounts at the moment, no idea why that is and other sheets aren't.

I'm sure you and he will know, but it bears mentioning for anyone else reading this that 'M' class extraction/vac is a must when cutting it. Apologies for the granny eggs thing, but it really doesn't get mentioned enough how unpleasant MDF dust is.

 

[Cato]

Spent £1000 yesterday on studs, ply and plasterboard, for virtually nothing, would have been £250 for the lot 5 years ago

Coming on the back of the end user VAT recharge thing the customer really is getting a battering. I imagine there will be a bit of a slow down in domestic building work before too long.

 

[Onoff]

Well, wood doesn't grow on trees you know.....

Git! I was going to post that one. Thought I'd best check first in case some other wag had beaten me to it!