Wet room shower tray system

[RaceDiagnostics]

I'm going to start on my new shower room project next week. I'll be installing all new walls, floor, plumbing and electrics so I've got a free hand. My plan is for a fully tiled wet room. It seems like there ate a few different suppliers for wet room shower trays. Does anyone have experience to recommend one over another?

 

[mike os]

Timber or concrete floor?

 

[RaceDiagnostics]

It's concrete but I plan to have a raised floor for pipe access.

 

[Kayos]

Impey or Jackoboard

I used Impey in the care home renovations I did, nice to fit and not too much concrete to chop out. Floor layer liked them as well

 

[RaceDiagnostics]

Thanks, I'll have a look at those.

 

[gaz1]

would never have tile floor

prefer a wetroom floor

then you can use underfloor wet heating for me and not suffer expansion and contraction with materials

 

[Onoff]

I cast my concrete to falls in the wet room corner. All goes to a Geberit wall drain. It got very complicated with bits of steel angle to get the falls but was very satisfying to do.

There's fibres and A142 mesh in the concrete along with UFH pipes.

Same tiles as the rest of the floor just union jack cut to suit the fall lines.

Works well.

 

[RaceDiagnostics]

I was watching the skillbuilder channel and saw them fit a cistern like this behind a tiled wall.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/GROHE-38772001-Wall-Hung-Brackets-Cosmopolitan/dp/B005OQ2HWO/ref=asc_df_B005OQ2HWO/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=256125662130&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2744951740223103767&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006886&hvtargid=pla-306217263811&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

How on earth do you service it if something goes wrong?

 

[brightspark]

I was watching the skillbuilder channel and saw them fit a cistern like this behind a tiled wall.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/GROHE-38772001-Wall-Hung-Brackets-Cosmopolitan/dp/B005OQ2HWO/ref=asc_df_B005OQ2HWO/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=256125662130&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2744951740223103767&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006886&hvtargid=pla-306217263811&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

How on earth do you service it if something goes wrong?

il tell you how buy 8 spare tiles so when they knack up you knock them off and cut the boarding away to repair it i saw one a few weeks ago on a job i was at

 

[Onoff]

The Geberit in wall cistern I have is serviceable through the flush plate. Masterpiece of design as is all Geberit gear.

 

[Onoff]

Grohe and Geberit are both excellent in wall systems.

Abacus I've heard is a very close copy of Geberit to the point there was legal action. I would personally avoid it.

 

[Onoff]

The only mental thing with the Geberit instructions is they mix mm and cm on the same drawing!

 

[mike os]

All the big frame makers are fine, just put in plumb, level and at the correct height

Connect up and leave live, there’s an internal stop tap

Try not to raise the floor, cut the drain in, it’s a better job. Any major makers former will be fine, install carefully and do not skimp on the waterproofing system or joint tape.

My approach was to install the floor and trap, tank the walls and floor joint, then tile walls to 1 tile off the floor. Tank tile floor and then last course.

Not tanking the floor till the end minimises the risk of damage

 

[Kayos]

I was watching the skillbuilder channel and saw them fit a cistern like this behind a tiled wall.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/GROHE-38772001-Wall-Hung-Brackets-Cosmopolitan/dp/B005OQ2HWO/ref=asc_df_B005OQ2HWO/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=256125662130&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2744951740223103767&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006886&hvtargid=pla-306217263811&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

How on earth do you service it if something goes wrong?

Easy, it all unclips and comes out behind the flush plate

I have even used the German spec ones, use water pressure to actuate the flush, designed to be touched with an elbow then you use an infrared operated tap

Contactless cleaning, ze Germans have it all worked out

 

[JimmyS]

I take it you will have a suspended timber floor? Wedi Fundo Ligno is a good system.

Agree the Geberit and Grohe cisterns with the flushplates are the way to go as well.

 

[atomant48]

We’ve got an impey tray with electric underfloor and the small 50 by 50 mosaic type tiles over the shower area and larger 600ish tiles the rest of the room. Although you can, apparently, cut the large tiles to fit the slopes of the shower trays our tiler said it never works properly so hence the smaller ones in the shower. Overall it’s great.

 

[sg66]

Fitted a geberit concealed cistern frame and floating toilet, most of the stuff can be done through the flush plate, some of it is a right pita, has a braided flexi which popped after 2yrs nearly flooded the place luckily owner heard and went to look, the flush pipe o ring failed after that, it's had 2 flush plates, quality is not what I would call it.

 

[Onoff]

has a braided flexi

Made my flexi pipe completely accessible from the back of the cupboard. I can reach through the stud wall and get to the connection on the cistern:

https://flic.kr/p/2hRaevq

 

[JimmyS]

I fitted 2 toilet frames at our last house. I think they were Grohe, cant remember now as it was about 15 years ago. Never had any bother apart from one of the flush plates getting cracked. Was Hans Grohe flushplate that I had bother with.

 

[sg66]

Made my flexi pipe completely accessible from the back of the cupboard. I can reach through the stud wall and get to the connection on the cistern:

https://flic.kr/p/2hRaevq

The flexi is internal, its part of the cistern and something daft like 3/8, it was a stupid design, being able to get to pipes is never a bad thing.