CCTV recommendations

[knighty]

He doesn't know because he cant find them
I have had this wired in system lurking in my ebay basket, its ok to use with very long extension cables of over 100mts long. Cant use wireless around here.
Not sure about quality

SANNCE 1080P CCTV Security Camera System 8CH 5IN1 DVR Home Surveillance Kit IP66 | eBay UK

This DVR supports HDMI outputs with up to 1080P clarity, assuring you have a good vision experience and never miss any details. High Compatibility 5-In-1 DVR. Support 1080P HDMI Output. Smart Human/Vehicle Detection.

www.ebay.co.uk

100m is the max length for poe... but that's the max length in the spec so you should be able to go a bit longer without problems - you can defenatly go longer for just data (without power) so you can always have the furthest away ones plugged in

no experience with the system you linked to, but I'd go with a known / name brand one... 1080p is somewhere between 2mp and 3mp... which isn't much

how big of an area do you want to watch? the bigger the area the better quality you need, imagine having a camera watching your door from the inside... anyone walking in will be half the picture so you'll get a good shot of them.... if the same camera is watching a whole yard then that same person will be a tiny part of the picture so even zoomed in you can't really pick out their features

how many cameras do you need? you can cheat a bit, have one camera watching the whole yard so you can see what's going on then have other cameras zoomed in on smaller areas... I've got 1 camera watching my yard then another zoomed right in on the gate, so get a good shot of anyone looking through the gate

I'd want 4mp minimum for cameras now - I'm using 8mp minimum and (when I get round to it) swapping mine out for 8mp cameras

how many cameras do you need? I'll find you a few links to look at etc.

EDIT: looked again at the one you linked, it's not an IP system, it's old coax cables.... you really need an IP system (digital vs analogue)

there's exceptions, but mostly the analogue systems lie about the quality - they list a higher quality than you can actually send down a coax cable

you'd need to run separate 12v to each camera too

 

[My Old Landy]

I've ordered a ReoLink 4mp POE system with a 2tb drive. It will interesting to compare it with the OP's system. The trouble with these things is no one wants to post pictures!

 

[Olderisbetter]

I've ordered a ReoLink 4mp POE system with a 2tb drive. It will interesting to compare it with the OP's system. The trouble with these things is no one wants to post pictures!

Pictures are useful to show what all these cameras and recorders really do, these are pictures of some 8mp 4k dahua cameras playing back on dahua 8way pro series DVR, they are taken off the screen of a 4k tv with my smart phone, the camera was set to use the built in infra red and dvr set to colour night record. The 1st picture is full screen playback and the next 2 are digitally zoomed in of that image.

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Pictures are useful to show what all these cameras and recorders really do, these are pictures of some 8mp 4k dahua cameras playing back on dahua 8way pro series DVR, they are taken off the screen of a 4k tv with my smart phone, the camera was set to use the built in infra red and dvr set to colour night record. The 1st picture is full screen playback and the next 2 are digitally zoomed in of that image. View attachment 318504View attachment 318505View attachment 318506

80% of all cctv systems I used to maintain had the same issues
Cameras not set up correctly.
Cam not in the correct locations.

We would explain to the customer this, but to correct was additional costs.

 

[Olderisbetter]

80% of all cctv systems I used to maintain had the same issues
Cameras not set up correctly.
Cam not in the correct locations.

We would explain to the customer this, but to correct was additional costs.

I normally set them up for day then go back at night to get the best settings, the options in some DVR units are amazing lately.

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

I normally set them up for day then go back at night to get the best settings, the options in some DVR units are amazing lately.

So much can be done through the on board software, shame a lot of crackles want plug and play.

 

[ukracer]

So much can be done through the on board software, shame a lot of crackles want plug and play.

What's a crackle?

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

What's a crackle?

I think it what the the natives to the isle of wight call crockles.

 

[ukracer]

I think it what the the natives to the isle of wight call crockles.

OK what's a crockle then. Lol

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

OK what's a crockle then. Lol

A local to anywhere Norbert.

 

[My Old Landy]

My system turned up today and it really is plug and play! However, I read the instructions and changed the settings to get a really crisp image. I am happy with the system and will get it installed over the next few days. It comes with stickers
I will have a read up of the regs so I don't fall foul of anything that will get me in trouble!

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

My system turned up today and it really is plug and play! However, I read the instructions and changed the settings to get a really crisp image. I am happy with the system and will get it installed over the next few days. It comes with stickers
I will have a read up of the regs so I don't fall foul of anything that will get me in trouble!

Most system you can default back to factory or base settings.
If you make a mistake setting up.

We always plug the camera with the longest run into port 1. Then the second longest into 2..etc.

Set it all up on the bench and test everything.
Then set the recorder up.
Then each camera.

Look in the instructions to see if you can make any down loaded images, read only..

 

[Dev]

My system turned up today and it really is plug and play! However, I read the instructions and changed the settings to get a really crisp image. I am happy with the system and will get it installed over the next few days. It comes with stickers
I will have a read up of the regs so I don't fall foul of anything that will get me in trouble!

I had a quick read of that recent case judgement. There was a LOT more to it than just having cameras that cover your neighbours garden.
He had to put a lot of effort in to screw himself that much so you‘ll probably be fine.


Once it’s all installed the forever war with spiderwebs can begin!

 

[8ob]

And they need to be good enough to recognise number plates as many are not.

A local hitnrun case was recently solved by our neighbourhood watch brigade, plod were not interested so they sifted through cctv footage of the area and managed to get the car reg.
Another local case of a nutter cutting down trees in the night was also solved using residents cctv footage. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/23/man-24-arrested-over-mass-tree-felling-in-surrey

Bob

 

[gaz1]

the one i fitted caught a nasty purse thief

heres the kicker the building across the road has better cctv system (council building ) than the one fitted, it should have picked up face image the lot and what he was doing
but for some reason they used ours

but we had him going through the purse hidding it then walking past the cameras at the point he looked directly at them

 

[knighty]

it's shocking how many criminals look directly into the cameras....

years ago had a break in at work, get got up on a chair looking directly into a camera while be twisted it up out of the way... after all the other cameras had already recorded everyhting he was doing


when I've had staff with sticky fingers it's the same thing, you can spot it from a mile away because when they're up to no good they keep looking at the cameras. Last guy I caught with his hand in the till thought he was clever, he'd be paid by a customer then go back into the freezer where there was no camera, pocket some of the money then go put the rest in the till... gave himself away by looking at other cameras non stop when he was doing it, caught him because could zoom in and county how many notes he was given, then count how many notes went into the till on the till camera.

Camera watching customer pay wasn't good enough to see how much they paid, but could see how many notes there were - could also see what they bought and translate to £ value, but then he could say "oops I added it up wrong"

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

the one i fitted caught a nasty purse thief

heres the kicker the building across the road has better cctv system (council building ) than the one fitted, it should have picked up face image the lot and what he was doing
but for some reason they used ours

but we had him going through the purse hidding it then walking past the cameras at the point he looked directly at them

That is so common.
They get the very basic maintenance. Very little investment. Faults are left for so long, a simple fix is not possible.
Worse, they are set up to keep an eye on staff and what they are doing.

A good case of wasted funds.

 

[waddycall]

Just fitted mine. Had it for weeks but just not had the time. Really impressed. Sitting here watching it scroll through the 4 cameras. I’ve been playing around with the motion detection settings too. Really pleased. Thanks for the advice. Managed to run the cables down into the corner of the living room where our router sits so a nice and simple set up in the end.

 

[My Old Landy]

Just fitted mine. Had it for weeks but just not had the time. Really impressed. Sitting here watching it scroll through the 4 cameras. I’ve been playing around with the motion detection settings too. Really pleased. Thanks for the advice. Managed to run the cables down into the corner of the living room where our router sits so a nice and simple set up in the end.

I still haven't fitted mine since testing it. On the list.......

 

[ukracer]

Just fitted mine. Had it for weeks but just not had the time. Really impressed. Sitting here watching it scroll through the 4 cameras. I’ve been playing around with the motion detection settings too. Really pleased. Thanks for the advice. Managed to run the cables down into the corner of the living room where our router sits so a nice and simple set up in the end.

Which kit did you get in the end.