Hope not I need two bags tommorow. Lol
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bigegg
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Selco had plenty a couple of days since.
Cheers but I don't even know of a selco in our area. Lol
Revs1972
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I was looking at 2 massive container ships off the coast of Torquay that have been there for a while.
Sheltering from the elements? or sat there artificially driving up prices of their contents ?
A lot of things should hopefully change at the end of the month when they ditch the furlough scheme and there will be no excuses to keep the workforce away from the workplace
Ever the optimist
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They do that off the Essex/Suffolk coast with oil tankers. Just sat there out of the shipping lanes till the price goes up sufficiently to warrant coming in and selling it.
Too be honest I can't see how the cost of keeping the ship's there outweigh the lost money from future cargo movement if I am honest but call me skeptical if you like I am convinced that much of the profiteering/price gouging is being organised on the back of Covid or because of Covid.
The thing I am really angry about is we will never know the damage done by the "B" word on its own if Covid never existed
I am surprised the economics allow for that but not surprised they do this if it does.
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Presumably the oil doesn't "go off". Anybody remember the Nigerian cement fiasco of the mid-1970s? There were said to be 420 ships laden with cement, moored for months on end outside Lagos, because somebody had ordered about 20 million tons to be delivered in a single year without first checking whether adequate unloading and storage facilities were available.
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Still there tonight . Their not daft !.
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Oil is bought and sold many times on the bills of laden between loading and point of discharge. Its a commodity just like any other. Prices go up and down as we know. The quality of the crude and how much undesirable stuff is in it also makes a fair difference to the price over time. For example many deep water fields have issues processing methanol used to prevent sub sea hydrate plugs forming. Some refineries have issues processing it due-to the type molecular sieves they have. All sorts of cargo sits in ships off Rotterdam and many other places, waiting for payment, suitable berth being available etc, suspect timer is the same. A ship is in effect quite a cheap short term storage facility. I once sat on a bulk carrier full of coal for 45 days waiting to discharge in a UK port January 1985. Arthur and Maggie caused that hold up.
I shall make enquiries this afternoon in the pub regarding timber, as one of the Sunday club is a big cheese in the buying and selling of such things.
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Same as a lot of other commodities, some ships are loaded and set sail with no clear destination, cargo like timber and sugar can change hands six or more times before it lands.
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There are a few saw logs in there but most of it looks like it's been cut for chip, don't know how the current timber prices will affect biomass production. A place we run timber into keeps 60,000 tons on stockpile for biomass, unless timber prices fall a bit quick it will have an effect on biomass for power generation.
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My mates who own a sawmill in France are currently importing from Poland / Germany.
Just to fulfil demand, crazy.
Just to fulfil demand, crazy.
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i am glad i have got what i need in timber, well but for 8 sheets of 8x4 12mm OSB or Ply to line the work shop. that can wait now as not bothering with the cost even secondhand. Last i got 8 4x2 C16 and 11 loglap for £280. got the same just 4 weeks before and £100 cheaper. that was about a month ago.
i need some steel 50mm box section now to make some work bench frames, think ill get scaff poles as they seem cheaper. ball ache cleaning back the Galv but save a good bit.
Ah although local steel stock holder is selling 25mm x 25mm x 2mm for £18 a 7.5m length.
i need some steel 50mm box section now to make some work bench frames, think ill get scaff poles as they seem cheaper. ball ache cleaning back the Galv but save a good bit.
Ah although local steel stock holder is selling 25mm x 25mm x 2mm for £18 a 7.5m length.
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Our local docks at King's Lynn is rammed full of Russian timber and it does not seem to move?
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Its probably going for biomass! Which is a bit bizarre. Importing wood to burn for a subsidy, but it does happen. From what I gleaned today in the pub in the states timber is traded like any other commodity and futures market by the board foot.
