Lombardini arc welder and single / three phase Genny.

[Barking Mat]

I'm pursuing this on Marketplace, it turns over but won't start.

45 minutes from me, 250 euros...

Thoughts please folks.

@bR39Da and @Tom Orrow L please.

 

[James1979]

How chatty is he? Can you find out a bit more about it? Ie When did it last run, does he know why it won’t start, etc etc. Might help you make a more informed decision.

If it’s a non runner then be prepared to lose what you’ve paid. That’s just how it is. That aside, I’m sure even if the engine is toast you’ll be able to repair or replace it and use the alternator so it’s not all dead money.

Do you want a plug and play welder to earn money now, or a project which may work out cheap and take a bit of work?

My Arcgen was the latter. Took a while to get it running. Needed a donor engine but I’m still into it for under £500 and the first job it earnt it’s money.

 

[Barking Mat]

How chatty is he? Can you find out a bit more about it? Ie When did it last run, does he know why it won’t start, etc etc. Might help you make a more informed decision.

If it’s a non runner then be prepared to lose what you’ve paid. That’s just how it is. That aside, I’m sure even if the engine is toast you’ll be able to repair or replace it and use the alternator so it’s not all dead money.

Do you want a plug and play welder to earn money now, or a project which may work out cheap and take a bit of work?

My Arcgen was the latter. Took a while to get it running. Needed a donor engine but I’m still into it for under £500 and the first job it earnt it’s money.

Still chasing info...

Apologies for crap photos...

So it's a Lombardini 6LD400, 68mm stroke, 86mm bore, 395 cm3, at 3000 rpm.

Seems to do 170 amps, which is a 3.5 mm rod I guess ? Not 4 mm.

 

[nickk]

Can you do a compression test?
Not a lot to go wrong,they just wear out,I’ve had two of those,connected to Mecc-alte and Genset.

 

[Barking Mat]

Are Lombardini engines any good ? I'm not familiar with them.

 

[Barking Mat]

How chatty is he? Can you find out a bit more about it? Ie When did it last run, does he know why it won’t start, etc etc. Might help you make a more informed decision.

If it’s a non runner then be prepared to lose what you’ve paid. That’s just how it is. That aside, I’m sure even if the engine is toast you’ll be able to repair or replace it and use the alternator so it’s not all dead money.

Do you want a plug and play welder to earn money now, or a project which may work out cheap and take a bit of work?

My Arcgen was the latter. Took a while to get it running. Needed a donor engine but I’m still into it for under £500 and the first job it earnt it’s money.

Can you do a compression test?
Not a lot to go wrong,they just wear out,I’ve had two of those,connected to Mecc-alte and Genset.

I'm pretty tempted to go have a look, take some diesel, tools and cables, if it's a non runner I'll walk away or offer scrap value ???

 

[Barking Mat]

@James1979 , I've got an arc welder, minus the motor, it's the kind of thing which can always be useful, and make money, but, no, I don't need any more major projects, if it will run easily, I'll take it, if it's a engine rebuild I'll walk away or offer 100 euros.

Attracted to the welding, 220 and 380 volt output, but I guess it won't power much ?

Just one of those random things you see amongst the crap on marketplace, sold as a 'Junset'.

 

[Memmeddu]

I'm pursuing this on Marketplace, it turns over but won't start.

45 minutes from me, 250 euros...

Thoughts please folks.

@bR39Da and @Tom Orrow L please.View attachment 310176View attachment 310177

Take it

 

[Memmeddu]

Are Lombardini engines any good ? I'm not familiar with them.

Best stationary engines made over here

 

[Barking Mat]

Take it

Do you rate Lombardini engines @Memmeddu ?

 

[Barking Mat]

Best stationary engines made over here

Thanks.

 

[gt6s]

Worked in the welder genny hire buisness. NO TIME FOR ANYTHING DIESEL OVER 1500 Rpm Our neighbouring sister PLANT depot tried to pass off a load of those things onto us. I condemed the whole dam lot. With my bosses full blessing. They dumped thier crap on us once before. Before I started there.

 

[Memmeddu]

I've taken a better look to the pictures
It's missing of throttle body parts , and air filter
The alternator spec are the same of mine but with a diesel engine instead of a gasoline one on mine (Lombardini im350)
170A 60% 22V load voltage 90 OCV
3kW 220V 4.5kW 380V

 

[Barking Mat]

In the cold light of day....

170 amps is a 3.2 rod, I guess.

Worked in the welder genny hire buisness. NO TIME FOR ANYTHING DIESEL OVER 1500 Rpm Our neighbouring sister PLANT depot tried to pass off a load of those things onto us. I condemed the whole dam lot.

Yes, I'm there with you, 2.2 thou rpm is max for me on a diesel engine, to last.

Can't see many amps at 400 volts 3ph, I'm still curious....

 

[Barking Mat]

I've taken a better look to the pictures
It's missing of throttle body parts , and air filter
The alternator spec are the same of mine but with a diesel engine instead of a gasoline one on mine (Lombardini im350)
170A 60% 22V load voltage 90 OCV
3kW 220V 4.5kW 380V

4.5 kw @380 volts might be handy.

If it's missing bits I'll walk away.

It's not run for a while apparently.

 

[Memmeddu]

4.5 kw @380 volts might be handy.

If it's missing bits I'll walk away.

It's not run for a while apparently.

It will run on the governor
But needs some care
It's not so difficult air filter has no to be the exact same
And the throttle is just a lever on the governor.
It should run mine was not running for at least 25 years and for a gasoline engine it's a long time.
You might need to purge the fuel lines

 

[Memmeddu]

I'll check for the amp-volt chart
You read the voltage on the voltmeter 220V are 110A for example
At 110A your auxiliary voltages will be 220V ,380V and you'll be able to use 48V tools on your welding output.

 

[Barking Mat]

It will run on the governor
But needs some care
It's not so difficult air filter has no to be the exact same
And the throttle is just a lever on the governor.
It should run mine was not running for at least 25 years and for a gasoline engine it's a long time.
You might need to purge the fuel lines

I'll take 5 litres of diesel, and see what happens, got enough projects already, welder / genny at the right price is always interesting.

 

[gt6s]

In the cold light of day....

170 amps is a 3.2 rod, I guess.



Yes, I'm there with you, 2.2 thou rpm is max for me on a diesel engine, to last.

Can't see many amps at 400 volts 3ph, I'm still curious....

Direct drive at 50 hz is either 1500 or 3000 Rpm My old Lister CS genny runs at 850 1500 at the alternator Obviously not direct drive.

 

[Memmeddu]

I'll take 5 litres of diesel, and see what happens, got enough projects already, welder / genny at the right price is always interesting.

Ahh your welding current potentiometer is the throttle ,set it at minimum or won't start