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dont laugh i know a plumber who conected a gas tap in a science lab to the water supply by mistake
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Not uncommon mateWell after the saga we've had today with foundations for a shed being out of whack, I've lost all patience with professionals. What's the point of paying someone to design a shed when all they do is go massively over on spec, and then screw up with the foundation positions. We would have picked up on it except we paid another professional surveyor to do the marking outand it all looked fine. I'm feeling rather salty about the whole thing, the reason why I didn't double check the positions myself is because we paid someone else to do it.
it wasn't even the surveyors fault, his marking out was spot on... For the early drawing revision that he was given directly by the draftsman
Oh my!
Classroom isolators were always by the door, kind of makes sense so you can shut off the gas on your way out, most of the time it being off anyway unless using the burners, they didn't think about the favourite trick of us pupils, turning all the bench gas taps on during the lesson then whacking the isolator on on your way out of class at the end of the lessonWe used to do that all the time in the chemistry lab. What a hoot it was
I think there's the same proportion of chocks as there ever was, there's just more of the population, so therefore there are more chocks.
Mobile phones do a good job of allowing people to hide intelligence or ability to do a good job. Always checking for missed calls, messages, whats on fascebook, etc etc - never actually properly concentrate on the job.
Kitchen cabinet place I use, employees are made to leave their phones in their lockers when they are out on the floor . . . "but what about emergencies?" . . . give 'em the office number, we'll come and get you straightaway. And it works - job is done well.
Our place has all sorts of dire warnings for not using your phone . . . but no-one has even been disciplined for it, always a lot of people checking one specific toolbox drawing, top box, etc if they aren't simply out in the open using it. I use mine to take photos of components, problems etc. but we used to have an office digi camera - we could go back to that idea.
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Years ago my mom had a problem with her central heating and found someone local in the Thompson Local Directory (pre internet days), I was there when the "engineer" turned up and accompanied him up to the boiler (didn't want to let a stranger upstairs alone), he looked at the pipework for a few minutes then phoned someone to say "I have a pipe going from X to Y, what do I do now", at this point I asked him to leave.
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We have a chap and the joke is, he'll go into the plant room and say the compressor is ******** and the maintenance man will reply "that's the boiler mate"
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Aye i know. Daft mistakes just not picked up on until its too late. Just worse when it's your own project, lol
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Part of the issue is no one talks to one another , and everyone hates one another as the other trades are all idiots or did their job wrong
They all hate the architect, surveyor and engineer as they earn more money but are useless and earn to much money.
Well that's the jist I normally get
and you go to use it and find it's not charged up
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It's just like that on the job I've been at for 3 days now, all the management seem to hate being here, the trades and each other. It's a French company called Bouygues
and every job of theirs I've been on is always hassle!I suppose they don't like having to work here
Only good thing is they employ lots of lovely young femmes...
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Last structure i did, I drew up the steelwork to suit the achitect's sketches, and the foundations were done by the BEST builders i've ever seen. Only 10m long, but each of the 10 pads was flat and within 3mm of each other. That structure went up in a single day.
If only they were all that simple...
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its the same for the builders
there really is some hate towards them when they havent been hands on the job and expect you to follow some of there recomendations
the council planning officer is the worst you will find more desk jockeys and books worms there that think they know there job from a book
you know the ones straight away who have done the job as they know how to get around some issues that is found on the job
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Don’t laugh. My Daughter is a lab technician at her old school, except they now have a brand new school. The pipes to the fume cupboard in her new lab hadn’t been fitted so being a capable girl she decided to connect it up herself as her brother actually installs fume cupboards so she knows how to do it. Imagine her surprise when she turned on the gas, WATER flowed out! I kid you not. She hadn’t made a mistake but somehow the builders had managed the impossible. You already know what I’m going to say about when they turned the lab sinks on. The school has more F ups than a new build house. The cladding has no expansion joints and pings and distorts when the sun gets on it. The shelves are held up on brackets with just a normal screw into plasterboard. The electrics are laughable as they won’t allow any sort of adaptor to be plugged in and the proximity lighting is mis-wired so you have to go and wave your arms around in a different section to get the lights to turn on in the section you want to work in and for some reason it will turn off the computers when the light goes off. The school decided to save money on a project manager and got a teacher to do it, hence chaos because not being experienced, he signed it all off.
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Blimey, that’s a coincidence. I hadn’t seen your post and thought my Daughter’s experience was unusual.dont laugh i know a plumber who conected a gas tap in a science lab to the water supply by mistake
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And this is probably a good example that's more than just cost cutting, lots of people think construction work is easy and only for thicko's, something that schools seem to be encouraging as everyone these days must be in IT, media, computer game designers etc.
And these people are teaching our kids?!!!
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Having done a lot of work in schools, I am fairly certain that it won't be just a case of thinking that construction is for thickos. They manage all projects in this way irrespective of what it is.
Often projects are managed by Heads of Departments, often times dumped on somebody that didn't really want to do it and doesn't have the time, or somebody who has an agenda, or somebody angling for a promotion.
9/10 there is some internal politics involved.
Academic staff also inhabit a different reality to the rest of us mere mortals, everything will be left until the last minute, with no forward planning and then completely changed on a whim. It is just the way they operate.
Everything has to be done on a shoestring and the idea that anybody needs to make a profit is completly alien.
They can be enjoyable to work in, but they can also be extremely frustrating.
