THEY ARE NOT LIARS JUST ECONOMICAL WITH THE TRUTH . QUOTE!!!So are we now banned from talking about liars?
THEY ARE NOT LIARS JUST ECONOMICAL WITH THE TRUTH . QUOTE!!!So are we now banned from talking about liars?
Why do you find this strange.So he wants them to pay for his travel to his place of work?
If he succeeds, let us all know, so we can all apply for a job there too!
What's wrong with that?
Good point. Just for clarity he is not asking for payment while travelling to work.I get paid as soon as I step out the back door
Not really they have always paid BIK. It's more about age really. The operations manager does like like the package he agreed when he came off HGV to run maintenance of machines and HGV Maintenance. Inc the MOT lane.My guess it’ll be down to taxes.
You do not have to pay tax if you take work vehicles home.When I worked for the private forestry the inland rev chased three of us for 3.5k each because we took work vehicles home. Our employer and us fought them and won our case, our employer changed our work address from the forestry office to our home addresses. This is what makes me think it’s tax not insurance related
You do not have to pay tax if you take work vehicles home.
You only pay BIK if you do insignificant trips such as trips to the tip (even though the tip won't let you in it's it's signwritten lol)
"It should be noted that insignificant private use, such as occasionally using the van to take something to the tip, is disregarded."
its all about the tax on the fuel as most people already have another vehicle they tax and insure anyway. In my sons case its not being able to drive two vehicles at once. oF COURSE hmg DONT CARE ABOUT THAT BIT.From what I remember, they deemed we were benefiting from it by not having to supply a private vehicle to go back and forward to our work “ address”. Once work change our work address to our home address, issue over. This would be very early 90’s, things may have changed since then. I’ve certainly never had the Inland rev chasing me since I moved jobs and the present work vehicle lives at my address
Not doubting you, but you might want to check that. When I had a company vehicle ANY private use was counted for tax purposes including stopping at the shops on the way home or dropping the kids off at school.You do not have to pay tax if you take work vehicles home.
You only pay BIK if you do insignificant trips such as trips to the tip (even though the tip won't let you in it's it's signwritten lol)
"It should be noted that insignificant private use, such as occasionally using the van to take something to the tip, is disregarded."
well I copied that from a gov website but I also find this so they changed the example.Not doubting you, but you might want to check that. When I had a company vehicle ANY private use was counted for tax purposes including stopping at the shops on the way home or dropping the kids off at school.
I'd guess that if you weren't paying the personal use tax you probably wouldn't be insured at company expense for those miscellaneous trips either?
There are some people in the UK employment group on Facebook saying it's not allowed.My brothers boss changed his work van to a double cab after his second child was born so that he would be able to drop off / pick up both kids in the work vehicle if he needed to. I thought that was a really decent move on his part. Looking after a loyal valued staff member.
Many Moons Ago when I worked for BT it was called "hard standing allowance" and tax-free.If hes not allowed any private use, Id suggest he bills his boss for the secure parking at his house. I mean why should he sacrafice space for the company van.
I get paid as soon as I step out the back door
My company pays me - I pay to get to work however I get to work, from where ever I need to get to work from.Why do you find this strange.
He has been for the last 4 years.
It was included in his package Inc the company paying the BIK.
Are you not aware that your company is paying for your travel to your place of work?
Do you have to go and fix a machine break down out of hours?My company pays me - I pay to get to work however I get to work, from where ever I need to get to work from.
They do not pay me my fuel bill, which is what you seem to be suggesting he has asked for. If I had to go anywhere other than my usual place of work, then they pay - taxi, plane, car rental. I am not allowed to use my private vehicle.
You run a company vehicle for private purposes, you get taxed. Solely for work use, I guess not.
If they don't want the hassle, or the cost of insurance, I guess they've clarified their requirements. Like anything else, if you don't like it, look elsewhere . . .
It came across as a moaning complaint about a benefit not many of us have had regarding use of company vehicles.
Oh, the gearbox is not going into gear anymore and making a terrible noise, also the clutch does not seem to work very wellDo you have to go and fix a machine break down out of hours?
The annoyance is he has been doing it for 4 years and someone new comes into HR and hes told he cant do it any longer BUT they wont increase the salary already agreed previous to the HR person appearing. Its BIK and its paid to HMRC BUT now someone " this is what they are claiming" has changed the insurance he cant carry passengers on the way to work.
BUT I think you miss the point. Status Quo is he can use the van to go to work and for reasonable private use. That includes collecting kids from my house on the way from home. He gets £50 BIK and a nother figure for fueul paid. This is standard HMRC stuff.
What HR cant do is change his contract unilaterally. The Two directors he works under agree but they have brought so many new office bods in they dont know their **** from their elbow. HR just said if you dont like it off you go but they A. dont know the law and B. dont realise the 2 Directors have been arguing over which department he is going to work in.
Put simply if it cost you 80 quid to get to work for a month and HR come to you and say BTW not only are we taking 80 quid off you next month BUT you cant use the van to come to work in if you want to drop the kids off on the way....BUT you need to take the van home because you might bet called out of hours .
Thats not to mention the 50 quid per month that was part of his negotiated employment package.
Thats what the young girl in HR said.... if you don't like it, look elsewhere . . .it dont work like that.. I think the directors might put her right on monday.
An employer might be breaking a contract's terms and conditions (in 'breach of contract') if they:
- force a change without the employee's agreement or a flexibility clause in the contract
- dismiss and rehire an employee without notice
Breach of contract could lead to legal action.
Forcing a change without discussion or agreement could also lead to:
- disputes
- lower levels of engagement and performance in the workplace
- employees working under protest
If there has been a breach of contract, an employee could make a claim against the employer for:
- damages at a civil court
- unlawful deduction from wages at an employment tribunal, if the change affects pay
- constructive dismissal at an employment tribunal, if they have at least 2 years' service and the breach is fundamental and significant. For example, an employee felt forced to leave a job because the employer made their pay a lot less
Making changes to employment contracts can be a complex legal matter.