Today's idiocy ...

[selectedgrub]

.... I can't ask the wife to drive the car with a tyre that could let go any minute. All advice, as always, gratefully received!

Can she walk?

 

[Bobupndown]

Do allot wheels still get nicked? Genuine question. I didn’t get a key with my latest so just removed them and fitted normal uns.

Not the problem it once was I think, now most cars come with them as standard there is less market for buying them from a 'bloke in the pub'. Exceptions would be for high end expensive wheels and tyres I'd imagine.

 

[Munkul]

My cousin is a car dealer and he has this problem ALL the time. He's tried a whole load of methods including dedicated tools but this is his favourite for the sleeved type:

- find a socket that fits the locking wheel nut sleeve just too snugly, and hit it on tightly with a hammer
- get the big ugga-dugga, set to reverse, fit to socket and go
- hold that trigger on full blast for as long as it takes. The locking sleeve will spin at high speed, and generate enough heat to friction weld itself to the nut/bolt. It will drag on the bolt before breaking the bond again, and slowly but surely free it off as this happens many times
- sometimes takes up to 10 mins, he's developed patience!
- The non sleeved types just get a hammered on socket, a few tries and it will be out

either way you'll ruin the locking nut/bolt, that's a given, the sockets should be sacrificial too, he uses Teng 12pt sockets as they seem to hold up for a few goes, much better than the proper MAC tools insert type he tried!

 

[Bravheart]

My cousin is a car dealer and he has this problem ALL the time. He's tried a whole load of methods including dedicated tools but this is his favourite for the sleeved type:

- find a socket that fits the locking wheel nut sleeve just too snugly, and hit it on tightly with a hammer
- get the big ugga-dugga, set to reverse, fit to socket and go
- hold that trigger on full blast for as long as it takes. The locking sleeve will spin at high speed, and generate enough heat to friction weld itself to the nut/bolt. It will drag on the bolt before breaking the bond again, and slowly but surely free it off as this happens many times
- sometimes takes up to 10 mins, he's developed patience!
- The non sleeved types just get a hammered on socket, a few tries and it will be out

either way you'll ruin the locking nut/bolt, that's a given, the sockets should be sacrificial too, he uses Teng 12pt sockets as they seem to hold up for a few goes, much better than the proper MAC tools insert type he tried!

But

He'll have 4 to do

Eventually!

 

[Bravheart]

@julianthegypsy
Have you looked in the spare wheel/jack store well?

 

[julianthegypsy]

@julianthegypsy
Have you looked in the spare wheel/jack store well?

Oh yes! It's bound to turn up eventually, probably the day after it finally dies and gets towed to the great scrap heap in the sky...

 

[mike os]

Oh yes! It's bound to turn up eventually, probably the day after it finally dies and gets towed to the great scrap heap in the sky...

No it will turn up tomorrow 10 minutes after the new one arrives

 

[Gritineye]

Cable tie is the best tool to prevent the problem, use it to tie the key nut to your spare wheel.

 

[Pete.]

My mate put locking wheel nuts on his Tesla and the tool broke. I tried welding a socket over the spinner several times but it didn't work. I. The end I smashed a 19mm socket over it with a club hammer and it wound it right off.

 

[bricol]

Cable tie is the best tool to prevent the problem, use it to tie the key nut to your spare wheel.

Which somewhat defeats the object of locking wheel nuts - might as well fit a standard nut.

EVO mag a few years ago had similar - came out to find car up in air, no wheels and broken into - thieves broke in, found the key and removed the wheels with no trouble . . .

 

[Gritineye]

Which somewhat defeats the object of locking wheel nuts - might as well fit a standard nut.

OP said the key nut should have been in the side pocket where it lived, what's the difference? Might be harder to find in the boot,

 

[bricol]

OP said the key nut should have been in the side pocket where it lived, what's the difference? Might be harder to find in the boot,

Anywhere in the car defeats the object if you ask me . . . Although leaving it in a secure place at home and getting a puncture 200 miles away . . .

 

[Munkul]

FFS have some common sense, the locking wheel key has to live in the car for puncture practicalities, if someone wants your wheels badly enough they'll get em anyway.

 

[bricol]

FFS have some common sense, the locking wheel key has to live in the car for puncture practicalities, if someone wants your wheels badly enough they'll get em anyway.

FFS If you actually read my post, you would have seen I am aware of that . . . and the humour of having a puncture miles from the secure location of the locking key . . . hence my original suggestion of not having them in the first place . . .

 

[julianthegypsy]

Well the good news is that the replacement key arrived this morning, so express post really was express, it fit fine and I now have a new tyre, plus the ability to change the others when I need to. I shall now book the mot, which will doubtless show that the only solid part of the car is the new tyre and the rest of it is rubbish!

 

[Munkul]

FFS If you actually read my post, you would have seen I am aware of that . . . and the humour of having a puncture miles from the secure location of the locking key . . . hence my original suggestion of not having them in the first place . . .

Sorry mate I didn't quite pick up on the humor there... it did seem like you were promoting leaving the key at home

 

[mike os]

Well the good news is that the replacement key arrived this morning, so express post really was express, it fit fine and I now have a new tyre, plus the ability to change the others when I need to. I shall now book the mot, which will doubtless show that the only solid part of the car is the new tyre and the rest of it is rubbish!

found the old one yet?


dont lie

 

[julianthegypsy]

found the old one yet?


dont lie

That's next!

 

[slim_boy_fat]

Can she walk?

Would I be right in thinking you've not had a SWMBO?

 

[selectedgrub]

Correct,
When I ordered my girlfriend online I ticked the box "Hands must not be painted on"