dont know if you found this thread of mine on difflock
but youre going to hate me if you havent, be prepared for a long read
electric 4x4
http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic.php?t=10868
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dont know if you found this thread of mine on difflock
but youre going to hate me if you havent, be prepared for a long read
electric 4x4
http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic.php?t=10868
maybe I will be able to use rear suspension of beattle I will just have to see does the end of halfshaft fit the wheel head of the vw. If not I will leave this one or try finding some that fit.
I have been on a drive with subaru yesterday and it was wild. I broke my tire on the half way home. Do you know what other wheels oder than subaru's fit justy. And is there any wheels that go to outside if you know what I mean. And what is the distance between screws on the wheel head.
thanks.
P.S. I'll be posting youtube movie tomorrow.
Hi adam
glad to here you have been having fun in your justy, the wheel stud pcd is 100mm, which means vauxhall nova/corsa and astra should also fit and probally the vw golf, vento etc as they are also 4 on 100mm pcd
theres a useful list of what car uses what pcd here
http://www.alloywheelsinternational.com/wheelfitmentguide.html
be sure to send me a link to your youtube vid when its on
Andy
glad to here you have been having fun in your justy, the wheel stud pcd is 100mm, which means vauxhall nova/corsa and astra should also fit and probally the vw golf, vento etc as they are also 4 on 100mm pcd
theres a useful list of what car uses what pcd here
http://www.alloywheelsinternational.com/wheelfitmentguide.html
be sure to send me a link to your youtube vid when its on
Andy
This is excellent news.I am able to find many types of this wheels in my city. I also found tractor tires that will fit my wheels so I will be putting them on the front wheels (there will be no space at back for them) and i think this will give him more performance.
The movie link is here
Are you sure there is going to be enough torque on your subaru buggy to turn the wheels and tires that you putted on. they look really big.
The movie link is here
Are you sure there is going to be enough torque on your subaru buggy to turn the wheels and tires that you putted on. they look really big.
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Hi Adam
thanks for the link l will have a look in a while,
the rear wheel arch on the justy is very close to the tyre isent it, you will struggle to get a bigger tyre in there without it rubbing, time to take the angle grinder to it and make some more room ?
as for the wheels and tyres on the justy buggy l am not expecting a problem with the gearing, they are not as big as the picture makes them look, everything else is small its like a quad that you sit in rather than on everything about it is tiny right down to the 3 cylinder engine, the original tyres were about 22" ( 560mm ) in diameter the new tyres are about 26"
( 660mm ) so l have only gone up 100mm in diameter, and maybe not even that as they have tread that is very agressive and sticks out a long way 40 to 50 mm so when l am sitting on soft ground most of that might sink reducing the overall diameter, also the buggy will only wiegh about one third of the car so there should be more power available to move it and finally the transmission is an auto box and the torque converter is very good at masking over tall gearing and the cvt is ideally siuted to offroad buggys
to explain what Adam is refering to about the wheels and tyres l have another project that is on "hoilday" at moment
but will be back on it soon, its based on a subaru justy 4x4, pic/biuld thread below
http://subarujusty.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=talk&action=display&thread=2684
thanks for the link l will have a look in a while,
the rear wheel arch on the justy is very close to the tyre isent it, you will struggle to get a bigger tyre in there without it rubbing, time to take the angle grinder to it and make some more room ?
as for the wheels and tyres on the justy buggy l am not expecting a problem with the gearing, they are not as big as the picture makes them look, everything else is small
its like a quad that you sit in rather than on everything about it is tiny right down to the 3 cylinder engine, the original tyres were about 22" ( 560mm ) in diameter the new tyres are about 26" ( 660mm ) so l have only gone up 100mm in diameter, and maybe not even that as they have tread that is very agressive and sticks out a long way 40 to 50 mm so when l am sitting on soft ground most of that might sink reducing the overall diameter, also the buggy will only wiegh about one third of the car so there should be more power available to move it and finally the transmission is an auto box and the torque converter is very good at masking over tall gearing and the cvt is ideally siuted to offroad buggys
to explain what Adam is refering to about the wheels and tyres l have another project that is on "hoilday" at moment
but will be back on it soon, its based on a subaru justy 4x4, pic/biuld thread belowhttp://subarujusty.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=talk&action=display&thread=2684
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thanks for the reply. Yes I forgot about weight. It will be much litter. I am sorry, I just start thinking and I write question about that project here. I will be posting it there in the future.
I am definitely putting tractor tires on front wheels soon just to see how it will perform.
I am definitely putting tractor tires on front wheels soon just to see how it will perform.
hi Adam
no need to say sorry mate, ask any questions you want about the justy here, l have never been one for keeping my thread strictly on topic, the justy buggy is a buggy thats good enough for me
and besides they may be people on here who are intrested in the justy buggy ??
also l dont get over onto that forum very often and any questions you ask may not get an answer for a good while,
l had a look at your vid, l see its autum there as well from the look of the trees, looks a big forest is it to the north of slavonski brod towards podcrkavlje ? or to the south west towards bebrina
l see you have a great big river through the middle of town and some very big goods trains in the railway yard
are those forests a public area that anyone can go to or are they private ? do you have tree huggers over there too who want to stop you driving off road ?
no need to say sorry mate, ask any questions you want about the justy here, l have never been one for keeping my thread strictly on topic, the justy buggy is a buggy thats good enough for me
and besides they may be people on here who are intrested in the justy buggy ??also l dont get over onto that forum very often and any questions you ask may not get an answer for a good while,
l had a look at your vid, l see its autum there as well from the look of the trees, looks a big forest is it to the north of slavonski brod towards podcrkavlje ? or to the south west towards bebrina
l see you have a great big river through the middle of town and some very big goods trains in the railway yard
are those forests a public area that anyone can go to or are they private ? do you have tree huggers over there too who want to stop you driving off road ?
Hi
Ok, than I will ask here again since I did asked in that forum.
How much did you shorten it? And how did you manage to cut and weld a differential shaft to be short too?
Yes it is autum and very beautifull one since it is not so cold at all.
It is north of Slavonski Brod here is detaild map.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.203086,17.979813&spn=0.088053,0.143852&t=h&z=12
You will see a little lake here on the picture. This is Petnja. We usually go from Podvinje to Petnja and than to Glogovica than all the way back. Everything true the woods. There are so many different roads. Forest is public area. We have many bicycle roads and many mountaineers with their clubs that walk this woods. And we also have our offroad club. There are no special country rules against driving. We just don't have permission to cut wood
. Sometimes we maybe cut a branch or two to make way for cars but that's not much .
Google maps, aren't they just great. Yes we do have a big slow river called Sava. Starts in Slovenia and go all the way to Srbia. The river is the border with the Bosnia and Hercegovina. The city has the second biggest railway yard in the country. We have aeroclub that I am also member of. I am flying gliders. There's something about me and that crazy adrenalin. just can't get enough of it)
If you ever wish to come here and drive our forests consider yourself invited. That forest isn't the only one. We also have many great driving paths near Požega, and near Osijek, some of tham in Lika and Gorski kotar. Well, the whole country is full of hills and mountains so this give us many opportunity...
Ok, than I will ask here again since I did asked in that forum.
How much did you shorten it? And how did you manage to cut and weld a differential shaft to be short too?
Yes it is autum and very beautifull one since it is not so cold at all.
It is north of Slavonski Brod here is detaild map.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.203086,17.979813&spn=0.088053,0.143852&t=h&z=12
You will see a little lake here on the picture. This is Petnja. We usually go from Podvinje to Petnja and than to Glogovica than all the way back. Everything true the woods. There are so many different roads. Forest is public area. We have many bicycle roads and many mountaineers with their clubs that walk this woods. And we also have our offroad club. There are no special country rules against driving. We just don't have permission to cut wood
. Sometimes we maybe cut a branch or two to make way for cars but that's not much . Google maps, aren't they just great. Yes we do have a big slow river called Sava. Starts in Slovenia and go all the way to Srbia. The river is the border with the Bosnia and Hercegovina. The city has the second biggest railway yard in the country. We have aeroclub that I am also member of. I am flying gliders. There's something about me and that crazy adrenalin. just can't get enough of it
)If you ever wish to come here and drive our forests consider yourself invited. That forest isn't the only one. We also have many great driving paths near Požega, and near Osijek, some of tham in Lika and Gorski kotar. Well, the whole country is full of hills and mountains so this give us many opportunity...
hi Adam
it looks a nice country with all those trees and hills, we ddont get many ( if any ) forests we can drive around on gravel tracks, l had a look around your town on google, that sure is a big river you got there and those trains seem to go forever, thanks for the invite to drive around your forests but l doubt l will get over there as l am not very adventurous when it come too travelling,
with the propshaft on the justy l just shortened it by the same amount l shortened the wheel base by, which l think was 22" (550mm) as its got a centre bearing in the prop l took 11" out of the front bit and the same out of the rear section,
for some strange reason it had cardboard stuffed up the inside of the prop shaft ??, l can only guess thats to make it less noisey when hit by gravel ??
it looks a nice country with all those trees and hills, we ddont get many ( if any ) forests we can drive around on gravel tracks, l had a look around your town on google, that sure is a big river you got there and those trains seem to go forever, thanks for the invite to drive around your forests but l doubt l will get over there as l am not very adventurous when it come too travelling,
with the propshaft on the justy l just shortened it by the same amount l shortened the wheel base by, which l think was 22" (550mm) as its got a centre bearing in the prop l took 11" out of the front bit and the same out of the rear section,
for some strange reason it had cardboard stuffed up the inside of the prop shaft ??, l can only guess thats to make it less noisey when hit by gravel ??
cheers Joker
its coming along, slowed up a bit but work has picked up slightly so have to do that first,
l am thinking of making some adapters for the wheels so as l can use suzuki sj/vitara wheels instead as these have much more offset and the present tyres are a bit close to the frame in places
Andy
its coming along, slowed up a bit but work has picked up slightly so have to do that first,
l am thinking of making some adapters for the wheels so as l can use suzuki sj/vitara wheels instead as these have much more offset and the present tyres are a bit close to the frame in places
Andy
been thinking about the roll cage a bit more was undecided where l was going, either leave it as it is or bring it forward and make it more buggy looking,
think l am going to extend it forward, l found these pics on the net and think it quite a nice looking buggy, so something like this it is then,
first pic l have rubbed the frame out and it looks a bit like mine with the rool hoop behind the seats, and then with it back in l think l like the shape
and just to let you know how sad l am , they look like suzuki sj door hinges
think l am going to extend it forward, l found these pics on the net and think it quite a nice looking buggy, so something like this it is then,
first pic l have rubbed the frame out and it looks a bit like mine with the rool hoop behind the seats, and then with it back in l think l like the shape
and just to let you know how sad l am , they look like suzuki sj door hinges
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waiting for the collar for the fuel tank at the moment so not too much l can do
so on sunday night l thought l would have a mess with some of the parts l have been collecting for my next project,
thinking of something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD7Aief5pKA&feature=player_embedded
its quite hard to package everything in such a tiny space, as always l am looking to be as light as possible this means an alliminium engine and box, for the mock up l am using a rover K series engine and box from a metro/rover 200 etc, although l am intending to use a suzuki baleno engine/box only because l have one and its an auto which l find better offroad plus l need less room for 2 pedals than l do for 3
the big disadvantage l see is that its going to be a single seater and l would have liked a 2 seater so as you can take someone else and out scare them
l cant see how to arrange it and get the 2 seats in, anyone ??
l did consider the sierra 4x4 engine and box the 2 lt injection one, that way l could put the engine at the front in the conventional maner with the gearbox running back between the seats, only plus l can see is the second seat, everything else is a minus, cast iron engine that will wiegh a ton, dont think they do an auto so will need an extra pedal, l will loose the the second diff in the gearbox and reduce the gearing significantly, but the big minus is the width of the front diff which passes through the sump, its so wide it will compromise the A arm suspension if l keep the buggy to a realistic width
l was thinking about using metro front hubs all round as they are easy to mount between the the top and bottom wishbone, also it would enable me to have rear steer as well, perhaps limiting the front steering angle to 2/3s of what it should be and having the rear do the same should give me a better turning circle than just the fronts steering at full lock, limiting the steering lock gives me a couple of bennifits as it will help out with the cv's which might protest at very long travel and turning full lock at the same time and also not haveing the front wheels turn so much gives me a bit more room in the footwell for the pedals and my size 13's
jumping back to my current project l found a pair of mgtf subframe complete on ebay for a very cheap price, these dont have the hydroelastic suspension of the normal mgf/metro but have coil over shocks and trailing arm suspension
l can now change over to these if l dont like the hydro suspension
comments please
so on sunday night l thought l would have a mess with some of the parts l have been collecting for my next project,
thinking of something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD7Aief5pKA&feature=player_embedded
its quite hard to package everything in such a tiny space, as always l am looking to be as light as possible this means an alliminium engine and box, for the mock up l am using a rover K series engine and box from a metro/rover 200 etc, although l am intending to use a suzuki baleno engine/box only because l have one and its an auto which l find better offroad plus l need less room for 2 pedals than l do for 3
the big disadvantage l see is that its going to be a single seater and l would have liked a 2 seater so as you can take someone else and out scare them
l cant see how to arrange it and get the 2 seats in, anyone ??
l did consider the sierra 4x4 engine and box the 2 lt injection one, that way l could put the engine at the front in the conventional maner with the gearbox running back between the seats, only plus l can see is the second seat, everything else is a minus, cast iron engine that will wiegh a ton, dont think they do an auto so will need an extra pedal, l will loose the the second diff in the gearbox and reduce the gearing significantly, but the big minus is the width of the front diff which passes through the sump, its so wide it will compromise the A arm suspension if l keep the buggy to a realistic width
l was thinking about using metro front hubs all round as they are easy to mount between the the top and bottom wishbone, also it would enable me to have rear steer as well, perhaps limiting the front steering angle to 2/3s of what it should be and having the rear do the same should give me a better turning circle than just the fronts steering at full lock, limiting the steering lock gives me a couple of bennifits as it will help out with the cv's which might protest at very long travel and turning full lock at the same time and also not haveing the front wheels turn so much gives me a bit more room in the footwell for the pedals and my size 13's
jumping back to my current project l found a pair of mgtf subframe complete on ebay for a very cheap price, these dont have the hydroelastic suspension of the normal mgf/metro but have coil over shocks and trailing arm suspension
l can now change over to these if l dont like the hydro suspension
comments please
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Often though of doing something similar with an autobox FWD mounted sideways
having 4 wheel steering but no steering wheel
On your left side have a joystick affair which through hydraulics works the front steering and if you pull back it brakes the left wheels
On your right side the same thing for the rear wheels and right wheel braking.
And for your feet an accelerator and brake pedals
having 4 wheel steering but no steering wheel
On your left side have a joystick affair which through hydraulics works the front steering and if you pull back it brakes the left wheels
On your right side the same thing for the rear wheels and right wheel braking.
And for your feet an accelerator and brake pedals
With regards to the passenger. Put the passenger behind the driver, with the legs on each side of the driver. And put the passenger high up so they can see up over the driver. Then, when "carrying the pillion" use an "extension" to the roll bar so their head is protected. When you want to go "solo" you can unbolt the passenger's hoop and perhaps the seat/belts, and all you've "wasted" is a slight space above/behind the driver, and a bit on the sides for the legs/knees.
... would that work?
... would that work?
sounds good to me
, citroen do a 1.9 diesel engine with an auto box in some of there cars, that might be good because of the torque and the fact you could run it on red, you could have 6 or 8 wheels to help with the ground pressure and skid steer, h'mm need an argocat with a diesel engine there is a hydraulic forum with a projects section full of things like this
hi Joker
bit like a motor bike you mean ?, or even a 2 seat F1 car
dont know about anything that makes the cog higher for a 4 wheel drive that is designed for climbing over things at steep angles, it might work l will give it some thought if l am going to have it as a 2 seater side by side then l think l need to push the engine forward like a conventional car and make some foot room that way, l guess l could put the engine behind the seats but that makes the front very light when climbing very steep inclines even to the point of flipping over backwards,
if l am going to try and squeeze the engine in the front l would need a small engine and box so l was just having a look at these little 660cc turbo suzuki engines on ebay, nice and small but its torque l need not revs, but still looks an intresting engine anyway
