Lidl fire extinguisher

[visor_down]

These are really handy for little workshop fires, not going to deal with something established but good for those moments like the gaffer tape example above. Best bit is they wipe up easily after use and are non toxic. Before certain people say it, no it's not a substitute for a proper extinguisher but good for those moments that don't justify the mess of a proper one.

 

[CompoSimmonite]

I set off an out of date powder extinguisher - it covered the whole lawn I've still for one that is attached to one of the carport poles "just in case" as many years ago a Mini I was welding a new sill had seam sealant catch fire. It wouldn't go out with a spray of water so I had to rush into the house and get the kitchen powder type. It saved the car and despite the mess I'm glad the powder was handy otherwise the whole car could have gone up. Yes - CO2 is best but powder better than nothing and a good standby in case the CO2 doesn't work

 

[Feet 'n Inches]

Only useful to smash your door on the way out

Could be tricky for me, the workshop has a steel door!

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Any source for that??

BAFE

 

[daleyd]

BAFE

Interesting - any particular reason why?

 

[Lazurus]

I got chatting to the guy who serviced the extinguishers at work, up shot was he gave me 10 fire blankets still in their boxes and a couple of foam extinguishers. Apparently he has to change them if they are sun damaged and the paint / plastic has faded. He said they just skip them. I will watch out for next years servicing to. I have a few extinguishers in the workshop, a mixture of foam and powder "Just in case"!

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Apparently he has to change them if they are sun damaged and the paint / plastic has faded

Not 100% true.

The UV damaged to the unit applies only to the plastic head units. They should of been replaced 5 years ago. 10 years ago after it was found out the plastic "May Fail" in use. They allowed this amount of time for stock to be used.

If they are failing it for that, they are not doing the job to BAFE standards. But I have failed units were the sun damaged has rendered to writing imposible to read.
Again that smacks to the unit not being commissioned correctly.

Same applies to Fire blankets.

 

[jerrytug]

6 litre Foam or don't bother. Not expensive either. Others may disagree. just my €2.

 

[jerrytug]

These are really handy for little workshop fires, not going to deal with something established but good for those moments like the gaffer tape example above. Best bit is they wipe up easily after use and are non toxic. Before certain people say it, no it's not a substitute for a proper extinguisher but good for those moments that don't justify the mess of a proper one.

Ok in what precise way is that better than a bucket of water?

 

[jerrytug]

If you discharge a DP, in an enclosed space, you will need to get out anyway, because you won't be able to see or breathe.
Also it will damage engines and electrics.

 

[tom2207]

I think one of the worst things they ever did was make all extinguishers red again , much preferred the black red cream idea.

 

[jerrytug]

I think one of the worst things they ever did was make all extinguishers red again , much preferred the black red cream idea.

Spot on mate

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

I think one of the worst things they ever did was make all extinguishers red again , much preferred the black red cream idea.

That was done for a reason.
2 if you want to totally true.

The official reason.
Was that they were all one colour, with 10% colour band to identify the use off that unit.
So only trained people will use the unit in a emergency situation.

The idea is. GET OUT.
Use the unit to aide escape. Smash a window, batter a door down. That allows you to leave the area. Ten it has done it's job.

If you are a cynic.
Then it was the EU forcing the change so that all of the EU is the same. We managed to get our better units sold in the EU, but they can not sell their units in the UK unless they confirm to out stronger regulations.

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

6 litre Foam or don't bother. Not expensive either. Others may disagree. just my €2.

To be honest, after 5 years and any unit that ages needs a discharge test and refill. You can, if you know your job correctly. A fail reason can be found.
I like to take a new unit out of the box, commission it, put it into service than waste time doing a DTR.
Better on the pocket of a customer as well.

 

[daleyd]

Ok in what precise way is that better than a bucket of water?

Not something I’ve used myself but I can imagine they would be much more convenient than having a bucket of water in the garage, which is something I tend not to do when I’m welding

 

[jerrytug]

That was done for a reason.
2 if you want to totally true.

The official reason.
Was that they were all one colour, with 10% colour band to identify the use oif that unit.
So only trained people will use the unit in a emergency situation.

The idea is. GET OUT.
Use the unit to aide escape. Smash a window, batter a door down. That allows you to leave the area. Ten it has done it's job.

If you are a cynic.
Then it was the EU forcing the change so that all of the EU is the same. We managed to get our better units sold in the EU, but they can not sell their units in the UK unless they confirm to out stronger regulations.

Ok I'm a cynic. If the 'idea' is to get out, why provide extinguishers? Why not big hammers?
Disclaimer: At sea you can't get out, I have no comment to make on fires in buildings.
Ok I do.. why dont the building regulations insist on sprinkler systems on every newbuild? Why isn't fire awareness, fire prevention and fighting taught in school alongside 1st Aid?

 

[slim_boy_fat]

Then it was the EU forcing the change so that all of the EU is the same.

So I might just have worked out the reason for those in Lidl mentioned earlier in the thread? If so, I claim the special prize.....

 

[jerrytug]

To be honest, after 5 years and any unit that ages needs a discharge test and refill. You can, if you know your job correctly. A fail reason can be found.
I like to take a new unit out of the box, commission it, put it into service than waste time doing a DTR.
Better on the pocket of a customer as well.

Totally, gash them after 5 yrs and renew, not worth it.

 

[jerrytug]

Not being funny, but has anyone put out a fire in an engine room with your ringpiece going half-a-crown, sixpence, half-a-crown? I have and foam is king, and lots of it. AFFF means being equipped and a good night's sleep

 

[daleyd]

Not being funny, but has anyone put out a fire in an engine room with your ringpiece going half-a-crown, sixpence, half-a-crown? I have and foam is king, and lots of it. AFFF means being equipped and a good night's sleep

Yes. And getting back to the garage, I’d still rather have a small extinguisher of any type to hand than none at all.