Fordson live drive gearbox

[Stingray]

I have a live drive Fordson Major, I am looking at making the gearbox dead drive and installing a single paddle clutch, as I am putting a 160hp Cummins engine in her and the original clutches are only good for about 70hp, I have two or three options that may be feasible but would appreciate any suggestions good or bad.

First idea, get a splined hub that fits over inner shaft, machine it with a thread on outside of hub, machine a thread on the inside and loctite the boss in, problem is the outer PTO shaft is very thin walled and integrity of shaft may be compromised.

Second idea, Machine a splined hub and weld onto inside of outer shaft, problem is It ruins the outside PTO shaft if anyone wanted to put back to original, also there is an oil seal that I need to install which would not be possible as welded splined hub would be in the way.

Third idea, get an outer hub and machine it and weld it to the clutch plate splined hub.

Fourth idea, weld the two shafts together as what the majority of people do, but compromises the integrity of the inner input shaft.

 

[Turbo]

Try contacting some of the tractor pulling clubs, the Fordson Major seems to be a popular tractor as a basis for pulling so they would have come across your issue before.
http://www.tractorpulling.net/home

 

[8ob]

You could fit a Ford V8 clutch and cover to your existing flywheel and leave the pto alone, its the same spline size as the Fordson and will easily hang on to the Cummins power.

Performance clutch https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ctf-mst559000/make/ford

Or stock would do which would be a fraction of the cost.

Bob

 

[Stingray]

You could fit a Ford V8 clutch and cover to your existing flywheel and leave the pto alone, its the same spline size as the Fordson and will easily hang on to the Cummins power.

Performance clutch https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ctf-mst559000/make/ford

Or stock would do which would be a fraction of the cost.

Bob

Hi Bob, My flywheel is too big for the Fordson housing so I need to try and source a smaller flywheel off a daf 130 truck, I’m trying to make things as simple as possible but marrying this engine to gearbox has its issues...

 

[8ob]

Can you not make an adaptor off the SAE to Fordson and then extend the clutch face of the flywheel into the Fordson bellhousing ? Basically add a flywheel of reduced diameter to the one you have, there are a few bits of kit made like this and as long as its balanced there wont be a problem.

Bob

 

[Tinbasherdan]

its a pity youre over in NI, my mate would no doubt gladly swap a non livedrive for yours

 

[Stingray]

Can you not make an adaptor off the SAE to Fordson and then extend the clutch face of the flywheel into the Fordson bellhousing ? Basically add a flywheel of reduced diameter to the one you have, there are a few bits of kit made like this and as long as its balanced there wont be a problem.

Bob

Hi Bob I’m taking the bellhousing of the Cummins and making an adaptor plate, I had to get a smaller flywheel of a 130 hp Cummins that fits inside the fordson gearbox as the one on the engine was about 15mm too big, I have ordered a new clutch and clutch plate from Clutchfix, when I get that I’ll see what I can adapt, I have an old clutch plate which I may weld onto the inner shaft then machine it down and press it into the outer shaft and weld it up...

 

[Stingray]

its a pity youre over in NI, my mate would no doubt gladly swap a non livedrive for yours

its a pity youre over in NI, my mate would no doubt gladly swap a non livedrive for yours

That’s just my luck, I was looking for a dead drive backend and could not find one, then after I bought it and have it half stripped down about 10 turn up...

 

[Tinbasherdan]

Also, it’s nice to see another member of the 6bt mafia

 

[Stingray]

Also, it’s nice to see another member of the 6bt mafia

 

[Tinbasherdan]

Mines already parked in the defender

 

[Stingray]

Mines already parked in the defender

There is some lovely machines in the Cummins Land Rover forum.

 

[Tinbasherdan]

There is some lovely machines in the Cummins Land Rover forum.

There is, it’s just a shame a lot like to act like everything is a big secret

 

[carbon]

I think I know someone that makes an adapter for that engine to fit the fordson rear end but would have to check with him

 

[Stingray]

I think I know someone that makes an adapter for that engine to fit the fordson rear end but would have to check with him

Cheers Carbon, I’ll make my own though!

 

[cavey2003]

I think I know someone that makes an adapter for that engine to fit the fordson rear end but would have to check with him

Hey carbon do you still know this guy who makes the adapter plates up if so could he make one that goes from a fordson E27N I’m slinging a 180hp industrial variant of the 6bt into one