Gloss paint

[MattF]

Can an oil based gloss paint be applied by roller, and if so, which type of roller is best; Foam or the fluffy one? Would it need thinning for roller application?

 

[Shedendman]

Yer course it can,what are you painting?

 

[MattF]

Yer course it can,what are you painting?

Just a MDF cupboard. Put a layer of undercoat on by brush today, so just need to flat it now & give it a quick coat or two of topcoat.

Which type of roller is best for gloss?

 

[Shedendman]

Foam roller then,make sure it fully wet through,but not dripping otherwise you'll have air bubbles on top,keep a wet edge,oh and i'd rubbed down that undercoat till nice and babies bum,smooth in other words

 

[brightspark]

these https://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonse...VSLHtCh01HAXFEAQYASABEgLVv_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds no thinning needed

 

[angellonewolf]

any reason for oil under coat ?

 

[pedrobedro]

They need to be fine foam gloss rollers, the ordinary foam ones leave bubbles in the finish.

 

[MattF]

any reason for oil under coat ?

The undercoat was just a bog standard, (non water based), affair.

 

[angellonewolf]

i must admit i hated painting with oil based on wood paint then wait an age for it to go off and on with the 2nd coat and at the end it looks good but what seams to be a couple of years then starts to yellow

water based on wood paint by the time you paint the skirting door frame and door the first lots dry and time for the 2nd coat

the main down side is the amount of coats it needs 2 or 3 under coats water and then 2 top coats water


but i helped paint a mates hall way 8 years ago the banister way looking a bit worse for ware a few months ago i was doing the bedroom and they said can you have a look at the banister so it was only a wash with suger soap to get the dirt off dry and paint the top banister rail you could hardly see the differance

 

[Shedendman]

The undercoat was just a bog standard, (non water based), affair.

On MDF pay attention to the edges they need a sand/rub with say 240G etc between coats otherwise it'll raise and look yuk
Trick with foam rollers wet it up and dont work it to hard
I still think i get a better finish with my old purdy brushes than roller

 

[Hitch]

Foam roller, I find thinning the paint slightly helps with the water based ones.

 

[MattF]

i must admit i hated painting with oil based on wood paint then wait an age for it to go off and on with the 2nd coat and at the end it looks good but what seams to be a couple of years then starts to yellow

water based on wood paint by the time you paint the skirting door frame and door the first lots dry and time for the 2nd coat

the main down side is the amount of coats it needs 2 or 3 under coats water and then 2 top coats water


but i helped paint a mates hall way 8 years ago the banister way looking a bit worse for ware a few months ago i was doing the bedroom and they said can you have a look at the banister so it was only a wash with suger soap to get the dirt off dry and paint the top banister rail you could hardly see the differance

It's for work. Tried one of the water based glosses when I had to paint some frames, months ago. Half hour later, that tin was consigned to a dark corner & I got some oil based. They'd go spare if I spent too much time on a job, so time tested quality won out.

 

[MattF]

On MDF pay attention to the edges they need a sand/rub with say 240G etc between coats otherwise it'll raise and look yuk
Trick with foam rollers wet it up and dont work it to hard
I still think i get a better finish with my old purdy brushes than roller

May still go with the brush. Just trying to decide which'll be quickest & simplest. They don't like me to faff around doing my usual quality of work, so I have to grit my teeth & settle for doing quick & functional. It merely needs to look acceptable, not perfect.

 

[Shedendman]

All oil based paints will be phased out soon,save the planet and all that

 

[Hitch]

I prefer the water based ones nowadays. Okay they dont cover quite as well, but can do a few thinner coats in half the time.
Ive painted a good few bits of funiture, I literally slap it on with a big brush, then just roll it out to get it even.

 

[brightspark]

All oil based paints will be phased out soon,save the planet and all that

and cost us all a bloody packet replacing rotten timber so how does that work

 

[brightspark]

I prefer the water based ones nowadays. Okay they dont cover quite as well, but can do a few thinner coats in half the time.
Ive painted a good few bits of funiture, I literally slap it on with a big brush, then just roll it out to get it even.

yea water baser acrylics great but not on outdoor timber

 

[MattF]

All oil based paints will be phased out soon,save the planet and all that

God, I hope not. I refuse to use water based paints these days. If the cleaning procedures don't mention some form of solvent, the tin goes back on the shelf.

 

[Shedendman]

Water/acrylic base you'll never get a good finish on a panel door as you would with oil base

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

On MDF pay attention to the edges they need a sand/rub with say 240G etc between coats otherwise it'll raise and look yuk
Trick with foam rollers wet it up and dont work it to hard
I still think i get a better finish with my old purdy brushes than roller

I Always run a layer of two part woodfiller down visible end grain and sand.

I tend to fire gloss on with a brush then hit it with the roller.