Weld looks pretty bad for a pro

[Lee Cave]

I really do appreciate the support and information you guys are giving me here. Thank you.

Engineer has now come up with a solution which is to basically weld a channel to the column, bolted to the slab with a base plate and providing a plate at the top to provide additional bearing for the beam.

This provides 2 solutions...

1. Remedies the risk of catastrophic failure due to the bad welds that are inaccessible to easily remedy.
2. Strengthens the column which was supposed to be a 203 instead of the 156 installed (still proven in calcs but only just!) This was the architects fault for sending the wrong version of calcs to the builder, which is a saving grace as that is what drew my attention to the welding.

I now just need to find a welder that is a proper welder and have the builder commission them. Anyone that is aware of a reputable company or qualified individual in the North East area please let me know.

You all seem like a cracking set of guys and I kid you not I want to try out this welding in my garage once the house is built. I've watched that many YouTube videos on it now I'm practically a desk side expert. Don't worry however, have no intention of doing any structural welds lol.

Cheers.

 

[gaz1]

i think you will need 2 columns one at the front for the extension area and another for the old property beams

either way both need the support

 

[slim_boy_fat]

Ah now, we don't know that for sure. Some of them are now at the bottom of the sea...

Possibly, but all with innocent souls aboard.

 

[Richard.]

The welding trade is about the worst out of the bunch for people been taken on to use a welder and assume because of this they are welders.
Your not a sparky till you get qualified and on the most part this is generally accepted. I’ve hung a couple of doors in the past as have most people but we don’t claim to be chippies and offer our services to build someone’s roof. welding seems to be this trade where you get taken on to put some splats on a gate and all of a sudden your a qualified welder ready to take on the world with that 130 amp Clarke and bargain basement lid. What’s the first thing a welder will say when you tell him his welding isn’t too good? I can guarantee you now his last job went to X-ray and passed with flying colours. Don’t get me wrong I was a full time welder with asmexi codes for 12 years and some of my good friends are welders. But there is a lot of arrogance around this trade which is a real shame. It’s frightening what you can get asked to do the moment people find out you’ve got a welder in the garage. I recently moved house and I’ve done alsorts of bits and pieces for people on the street. They’ve no clue of my capabilities but they know I’ve got a welder and there for I am a welder
I’ve got dozens of pairs of cutters too but I’ve not been asked to do some wiring in the loft conversations
I think people underestimate welding and more worrying people in the welding trade also underestimate welding and the skills required to do it properly
Rant over. I like welders really but god there a bloody stubborn breed. I should know

 

[Welderpaul]

I can't see mention of any formal welding qualifications he may have. I mean such as BS9606, not an in-house micky mouse bit of paper.

If he claims to have been welding what he has, he will have a file full of papers. Quite true what Richard says above - 'Hollywood welders'.

 

[HughF]

If I’m short on power, this is how I roll... at 9am on a Saturday morning...

 

[Revs1972]

If I’m short on power, this is how I roll... at 9am on a Saturday morning...

I see the fire watch man is having his brew

 

[8ob]

Got to like the mighty midget as a welder but they are one noisy mother, cant have leads long enough

Bob

 

[HughF]

Got to like the mighty midget as a welder but they are one noisy mother, cant have leads long enough

Bob

I think the 2 strokes are quieter than the diesels... They really are a good bit of kit

 

[zeppelin builder]

The welding trade is about the worst out of the bunch for people been taken on to use a welder and assume because of this they are welders.
Your not a sparky till you get qualified and on the most part this is generally accepted. I’ve hung a couple of doors in the past as have most people but we don’t claim to be chippies and offer our services to build someone’s roof. welding seems to be this trade where you get taken on to put some splats on a gate and all of a sudden your a qualified welder ready to take on the world with that 130 amp Clarke and bargain basement lid. What’s the first thing a welder will say when you tell him his welding isn’t too good? I can guarantee you now his last job went to X-ray and passed with flying colours. Don’t get me wrong I was a full time welder with asmexi codes for 12 years and some of my good friends are welders. But there is a lot of arrogance around this trade which is a real shame. It’s frightening what you can get asked to do the moment people find out you’ve got a welder in the garage. I recently moved house and I’ve done alsorts of bits and pieces for people on the street. They’ve no clue of my capabilities but they know I’ve got a welder and there for I am a welder
I’ve got dozens of pairs of cutters too but I’ve not been asked to do some wiring in the loft conversations
I think people underestimate welding and more worrying people in the welding trade also underestimate welding and the skills required to do it properly
Rant over. I like welders really but god there a bloody stubborn breed. I should know

you are allowed to be an arrogant old git
BUT you must be able to be a good operator

hope he didnt weld the heli deck on the one im on
must be a first welding Ali with 6013

 

[Hood]

......
must be a first welding Ali with 6013

I tried that once, it didn't work Boatyard asked me to go to Montrose to weld a tube from the deck to the Bridge on a standby boat. Got there and all had been ground off ready for me. Welded the first few bits and then as I climbed higher on the ladder I struck the arc and it didn't go very well and the guy holding the ladder got a hot bit down his back. serves the twa.. er twit right for not knowing the difference between steel and alu when he ground it clean for me.

 

[R Kraft]

Possibly, but all with innocent souls aboard.

The important part is that they were the only witnesses.

 

[jimbo84]

Makes you wonder how many people are sleeping on or under welding like this that goes undetected, worrying really. Glad you spotted it.

 

[Brad93]

This is standard welding in London

 

[Brad93]

Not sure if it has been pointed out but thought it was worth a mention.

BS EN 1090 a.k.a CE marking does not cover welding onsite. It is a workshop quality control protocol.

If you think it has reduced the amount of cowboys you’d be mistaken. All it’s done is put more red tape and financial pressure on legitimate businesses already doing their welding correctly.

The firm I once worked for had CE marking. Ask 90% of the welders what procedure they was welding a joint to and they wouldn’t have a Scooby-Doo.

Half of them didn’t even know what spray transfer was.

I can still walk into any site in London or a building under construction and weld.

If you’ve got a site manager on the ball he will ask for your new CSCS card.
White specialist or operative welder cards are no good anymore. Now you need the new CSWIP certified CSCS gold card.

https://www.codeaweld.com/services/cscs-cards/


Remeber, never be scared to ask for accredition or in date codes. You wouldn’t have someone work on your boiler if they weren’t Gas Safe (ex CORGI) registered.

Welding is a trade that requires skill and ufortunately for too many years, outside of the pipework/oil & has industry, there have been very little in the way of proper requirements.

The way I see it, welders who are Accredited can charge more just like plumbers and electricians.

 

[Brad93]

OP I’ve sent you a PM, if you’re looking for an individual to come in and do your welding I can send you the details of a couple of good guys in your area. They’ll probably be happy to grind out and sort those other welds too.

 

[Lee Cave]

OP I’ve sent you a PM, if you’re looking for an individual to come in and do your welding I can send you the details of a couple of good guys in your area. They’ll probably be happy to grind out and sort those other welds too.

Responded, cheers Brad!