vertical fillet tig 3mm plate

[brendan h]

looking on the miller calculator says about 100-130 amps for flat fillet tig welding on mild steel. how much would you decrease in amps for vertical? or because tig is presision it stays the same.

reason for asking is i need to weld somthing to my axel on my car its going to be vertical if i weld it in position. was thinking of stick welding it vertical up with a 13 rod. what do you think?
EDIT-just got some 12 rods what a difference in VD it makes
speed is not a factor

 

[3Rs]

Drop your amps to about 50-60, Ensure your metal is clean.

Regarding using your stick rods, Yes in general you can use them but the problem lies i have no idea what a what size a 12 is never mind a 13. If you can use Metric ie 2.5 3.2 ,4mm, 5mm etc. And what type of rod are you going to use (6013,7018,8010,10000100)
All these numbers can be found on every rod and pack.

 

[runnach]

Tut tut 3Rs, you must still be thawing oot from todays work mate 12's are 12swg = 2.5 dia, 10's are 10swg = 3.2 dia. 16's are 16swg = 1.6 dia and so on.......

Cheers............

 

[weldequip]

So what's a "13" then? Think he might be talking 6013 & not guage
weldequip

 

[gavuk]

Tut tut 3Rs, you must still be thawing oot from todays work mate 12's are 12swg = 2.5 dia, 10's are 10swg = 3.2 dia. 16's are 16swg = 1.6 dia and so on.......

Cheers............

That told him!.......and me never heard anyone used swg to describe welding rods

 

[runnach]

A 13 is one o them unlucky rods weldequip

I suppose by using swg to describe rods shows me age 12, 10 ect being the core size of rod dia.

 

[weldequip]

A 13 is one o them unlucky rods weldequip

Every other one when I av a go!

I suppose by using swg to describe rods shows me age 12, 10 ect being the core size of rod dia.

I was taught in metric but soon got used to the old swg behind the counter... mainly by Farmers..."Ow much r yer 10's rods?"
weldequip

 

[runnach]

I paid a visit to a company this afternoon, I know the director well from him and I working the tools together years ago. Got round to talking about the various dimensions we had to work to prior to metric when working from eng drawings.

Fractions: fraction dimension would give you for example + or - 1/32. Decimal dimension: eg .875 + or - 5 or 10 thousand of an inch..............then they came along with metric just to confuse things.

 

[weldequip]

That's why they fecked up with the Hubble telescope when it first went up...wouldn't focus...the Yank's were working in Imperial & we were working in Metric!
It was only a fraction of a thou out... or a point something of a point out
weldequip

 

[madkayaker]

NASA missed landing on mars for the same reason

 

[scarecrow]

Drop your amps to about 50-60, Ensure your metal is clean.

Regarding using your stick rods, Yes in general you can use them but the problem lies i have no idea what a what size a 12 is never mind a 13. If you can use Metric ie 2.5 3.2 ,4mm, 5mm etc. And what type of rod are you going to use (6013,7018,8010,10000100)
All these numbers can be found on every rod and pack.

It been years since I heard off 10s or 12s if it's any consolation I hadn't a clue what he was on about either but it's coming back to me now

That's why they fecked up with the Hubble telescope when it first went up...wouldn't focus...the Yank's were working in Imperial & we were working in Metric!
It was only a fraction of a thou out... or a point something of a point out
weldequip

You would have thought they would have put a focus button on it just in case

 

[3Rs]

You see even allow i have been welding for 15 years and welded in many processes In many locations even I get educated. This is where fourms like this teach you a thing or two. So even allow I am an "experienced welder" I still pick up things.

Now here/read this as i go off the subject!

LIFE the older you get the wiser you come. And for those who say I have learnt every thing there is to learn they are naive.

 

[brendan h]

anyway did the job used a 4012 vertical down.

by 13 and 12 i ment 4012 and 4013

 

[Weldingartisan]

4012 and 4013? Sorry but I'm still confused......... W/A

 

[runnach]

Me too WA, hope brendan clarifies before I go to bed tonight, I'll no sleep thinking aboot this

 

[scarecrow]

Must be the deflation they've gone down from 6013 to 4013

 

[brendan h]

in australia its a 4113. sorry