Cheap tat or good value?

[dannyp]

ive been fitting a lot of cheep 48w 12v round chineese led flood lamps on the plant, at £8 each we just put them on an econoseal plug fully expecting short service life but havent had any fails yet, and we've been fitting thrm in basty places because theer cheep

 

[ukracer]

I'd argue that a 100w LED floodlight is more comparable with a 500w halogen, granted this doesn't make the LED sound quite as good but as far as illumination level I feel it's a lot more honest.

I've always had to fit an LED of a higher rating than the conversion tables would tell you to use to get a similar level of illumination.

I've a pair of 400w halogens on a stand that really pumps out the light (and heat) but I haven't found an LED equivalent that I'm happy with, for long time illumination I stick to Metal Halide.

Is that the ones that take ages to get the light level up?

 

[ukracer]

ive been fitting a lot of cheep 48w 12v round chineese led flood lamps on the plant, at £8 each we just put them on an econoseal plug fully expecting short service life but havent had any fails yet, and we've been fitting thrm in basty places because theer cheep

Any links mate?

 

[dannyp]

Any links mate?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-X-48W...839981&hash=item4403499f11:g:1AIAAOSw-3FZE1oD

they are good units, good wide spread of light not one silly bright spot. as said we dind't expect them to last long but on a lot of the appel picking kit ect things normaly get smashed off long before they normaly breack, they seem to take quite a lot of smashing off remade a few brackets but that it. out of probaly 40 units fitted all of them that havent been smashe off are stil working, and all that ones that we've found in the orchards have still worked.

 

[Robotstar5]

I'd expect to pay about £100 for a decent 100W LED lamp. I fitted weatherproof 5 foot twin fluro fittings at mrs Robo's stables and they're fine for "working" on the horses.

 

[sardine]

 

[Nell#2]

Are those a decent solution.

I can comment on them I've had 3 one has worked perfectly for of over 2 years the others popped.
One had the flashing pulse when the pir went off only after 2mins or so. The other died almost instantly on fitting.
I bet the one working pops now I've cursed it. The light is nice and bright a whiter glow than halogens

 

[wookie]

Is that the ones that take ages to get the light level up?

Metal Halide take a few minutes to get to full brightness and don't like being switched off and then back on while still hot, I always leave mine on when I go for lunch etc to avoid the hot-restrike problem. But in terms of light output and especially quality of light I prefer them over LED, I have them on a separate circuit from everything else in my garage so if I trip something out I don't loose the lights especially with MH not restarting for several minutes.

 

[brightspark]

metal halide give off a good light and last for years. if a led floodlight goes after 2 year warranty its over a 1oo quid for a new one if metal halide bulb goes 16 quid and replaceable

 

[reb78]

Yes, the outside lights we have are metal halide and we looked at LED alternatives, bulbs and units, but on replacing the sodium bulbs (£8 each) we have two properly working 'soft' lights in the yard.

 

[ukracer]

Metal Halide take a few minutes to get to full brightness and don't like being switched off and then back on while still hot, I always leave mine on when I go for lunch etc to avoid the hot-restrike problem. But in terms of light output and especially quality of light I prefer them over LED, I have them on a separate circuit from everything else in my garage so if I trip something out I don't loose the lights especially with MH not restarting for several minutes.

What are they like on cost to run? I think i have one in my garage over the up and over door.

 

[brightspark]

probably 75 watts next size up is 150w and they do car parks

 

[Pete.]

I had one lighting up my garden but it used to interfere with the telly and the radio when it was on.

 

[knighty]

http://cpc.farnell.com/ is a good place to buy cheap led lights etc. from

cheap other stuff too, multi plug extension leads, extension leads etc..


all the cheap electrical stuff you normally get from ebay... get it from cpc

you still get what you pay for to some extent... cpc is basically a cheap devision of farnell.... so it's cheap stuff but not junk, not massively over rated like ebay stuff etc. etc.

 

[Ed.]

I have a nice 400watt sodium lighting up my backyard, I would have liked a Metal Halide, but they give off a brilliant blueish white light but here in Qld. I figured that it would have attracted every flying bug within 5 km, so decided on the Sodium and no bugs, although LED lights are the way to go for the power savings.

 

[wookie]

What are they like on cost to run? I think i have one in my garage over the up and over door.

Cheap is the quick answer. I have a few 70w Metal Halides, I prefer a pairs to just a single 150w as you can set them up so they overlap so help reduce shadows. The light off them is not very diffused so you tend to get very black shadows where the light doesn't fall. I have 2 setup in my garage so I illuminate the car from both sides so when I'm in the engine bay there is very little that isn't well lit.

When it's cold in there and I'm not lighting the log burner then I use the 400w Halogen pair on a stand as the heat given off is nice.

I have a nice 400watt sodium lighting up my backyard, I would have liked a Metal Halide, but they give off a brilliant blueish white light but here in Qld.

You can get quite a few different colours of Metal Halide bulb, I stick with the standard white but you can get blue, green etc

 

[rtbcomp]

http://cpc.farnell.com/ is a good place to buy cheap led lights etc. from

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CPC is my first go-to for electrical and electronic stuff. They're not the cheapest on a lot of things, but they're reliable and listen to customers.