What does bespoke mean?

[Thrashsmith]

Kinda pleased with this deceptive question. I don't really know 100% what I think.
Get's even murkier if you factor in bought in components/standard components you've tooled up to make en mass, but you use them in a different design each time.

 

[MattF]

That still classifies as bespoke, (referring to common usage), if you're using those parts to make an item for someone, at their request. If you make ten of the same item and just flog them, that's not bespoke.

 

[Richard.]

for someone, at their request. If you make ten of the same item and just flog them, that's not bespoke.

See i agree with this but the quantity is irrelevant. If you made 1 and just sold it I don’t believe that’s bespoke either because you didn’t have the specifics set out too you. I’ve got some hand made fishing rods. 1 is bespoke imo because I had input into its design another I took it as it is both are one offs hand made and won’t be another of either identical but imo only one is bespoke

 

[MattF]

That's what I said. At a customers request. If he just knocked one, or ten, together from his own design, and flogged those, that's not technically a bespoke item.

 

[Richard.]

I also believe something can be bespoke but not necessarily be sold in small quantities.
So long as it’s made to suit individual needs it’s a bespoke solution. I could Machine something to size to suit someone and that exact part might suit half a dozen others that come to me with the exact same requirements so I make half a dozen more. I still say that’s bespoke because it’s still made to a specific individual need even though you have made them before. However if I design something off the top of my head even if it’s a one off and just flog it to someone that’s not bespoke as that person hasn’t had it made specifically for them or there job.

 

[MattF]

We're not disagreeing here Richard. Sounds like we both have the same interpretation. We're probably just wording it differently. To put it in a nutshell, bespoke doesn't mean unique. It merely means that it's made to someones requirements. If several people have the exact same requirements, each piece is still bespoke.

It's the minor difference between selling a standard item and selling an item which meets specific requirements. Sometimes the two can overlap. However, if this was a mass produced item to fit another mass produced item, that's not technically bespoke, as the requirement is always a guaranteed figure. There has to be some element of variation, somewhere in the equation, to infer bespoke. Clear as mud.

 

[Richard.]

. Clear as mud

Crystal

 

[Thrashsmith]

Right, so we've done "bespoke".
Now let's tackle what "traditional" means. Only joking, let's NOT go down that rabbit hole.

 

[penfold]

Or artisanal.

 

[Shedendman]

Theres another one "Vintage",like anything older than the person looking at it now turns out to be vintage
Other half put some old dress up on ebay got it 30yrs ago,was told best way to sell it was class it as Vintage,like WOT??

 

[Burdekin]

Theres another one "Vintage",like anything older than the person looking at it now turns out to be vintage
Other half put some old dress up on ebay got it 30yrs ago,was told best way to sell it was class it as Vintage,like WOT??[/QUOTE
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Retro as well, anything retro seems to be in vogue at the moment and some crazy prices for some old tat as well as some really nice quality stuff.

 

[MattF]

Antique as in the American tense, or the rest of the world's definition?

The description which irks me most is: steampunk. Still haven't got the foggiest idea what that's supposed to mean. Shabby chic is another one which gets right on my tits too. No end of decent gear been made to look like a rats **** to achieve that description.