Waste management license.

[steve202]

Does anyone have experience of getting one of these from the Environment agency? And do you think I would need one?

Any tips on getting through the nightmare instructions and regulations?

I will potentially be looking to dispose of 50 litres of car oil and fluids a week. SO 2600 litres annually. I know there are exemptions, but cant get my head around it. Their site just goes on and on!

Best course of action will probably be to contact them, but thought I would try here to see if you fellers had any tips.



mucho cheers

 

[dcocks]

Hi
Yes you do need one i think you only need a waste producers license this can be obtained on line for £18 or it was
You need a waste carriers license if you cart it yourself this costs a lot more
If you have it collected you need to make sure you get all the paper work from the collector including a copy of there carriers license the EA love a traceable paper trail.
I have seen in leicester the old bill and the EA spot checking vans and trucks checking there carriers license's
It all seems daft to me as we take full cans of chemical to a job no license needed but we need one to bring them home when empty.
The best way forward it to talk to the EA
or get a waste oil heater for your workshop
david

 

[rtbcomp]

Where can you get a carriers license, and would I need one because I take my left-over scrap to the scrappy (I'm self-employed)?

You need a license to run a waste oil burner - my local garage has had one sitting doing nothing for years. The burner itself has to be an approved type.

[sarcasm]You need the paperwork to prevent fly-tipping, the fee isn't a tax on business and a way of employing jobsworths[/sarcasm]

 

[dcocks]

You can download the form here
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/subjects/waste/1416460/1334460/1341868/?lang=_e

 

[rtbcomp]

You can download the form here
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/subjects/waste/1416460/1334460/1341868/?lang=_e

Thanks, I've read through that lot and the men in white coats are coming to take me away ha ha.

 

[dcocks]

I know what you mean rtbcomp
as we are in the pesticide applying business we have to deal with the EA a lot. we have to have our cemical store and trucks inspected by them once a year now thats a fun day out NOT.Just a mindless paper trial and ticking the right boxes then you get your licence to store the chemicals for another year
David

 

[rtbcomp]

I know what you mean rtbcomp
as we are in the pesticide applying business we have to deal with the EA a lot. we have to have our cemical store and trucks inspected by them once a year now thats a fun day out NOT.Just a mindless paper trial and ticking the right boxes then you get your licence to store the chemicals for another year
David

And householders can store what they like unipeded, and they don't bother stopping Pikeys because they're above the law.

It's mostly a case of taxing the legitimate operator who can be easily got hold of.

 

[dcocks]

And householders can store what they like unipeded, and they don't bother stopping Pikeys because they're above the law.

It's mostly a case of taxing the legitimate operator who can be easily got hold of.

Thats about the size of it
David
PS do not get me started on the pikeys they nicked our Transit other week

 

[daf45]

The waste carriers licence is more like 200 sheets, and technically you should have one even to take the odd bit of scrap in. Occasionally they stop-check works vans round here, mainly as stated above because the do-gooders don't know how to handle those types that are actually on their way to fly tip.
Regarding the original question check you area for oil recyclers - we have mallary oils here they will collect the stuff from you (free I think) provided its stored in the right drums/containers.

 

[rtbcomp]

Mr Public is exempt from waste carriers licence, I used to have to tick a box on the sheet when I took my scrap in to say I wasn't a trader, but being self employed I'm probably pushing my luck. I've emailed the EA and I'll post their reply.

 

[steve202]

I have downloaded the EA forms and they are hilariously confusing.

Also, DAF45, there is an oil recycler place/dept nearby so thats ok.

 

[bump]

My local council will collect waste oil and dead batteries for free from my doorstep, however, milk bottles are a completely different problem!

 

[rtbcomp]

My local council will collect waste oil and dead batteries for free from my doorstep, however, milk bottles are a completely different problem!

They wouldn't if you had business premises!

 

[dcocks]

My local council will collect waste oil and dead batteries for free from my doorstep, however, milk bottles are a completely different problem!

We have a small unit on in an old farm yard we pay £60 a week business rates. The local council will not even supply a wheely bin for gen rubbish we have to pay another £8 a week for that In fact we get naf all from them for the 60 quid
David

 

[rtbcomp]

We have a small unit on in an old farm yard we pay £60 a week business rates. The local council will not even supply a wheely bin for gen rubbish we have to pay another £8 a week for that In fact we get naf all from them for the 60 quid
David

Do you pay that directly to the council or the farmer? I have a 2 story workshop and yard in a Sheffield side street and I pay £420 per annum business rates. (No rubbish bin though!)

The rateable value is much higher but there are transitional rebates and suchlike.

 

[dcocks]

Hi we pay direct to the council
David

 

[rtbcomp]

Hi we pay direct to the council
David

I'd see if there are any rebates going. My total ground area is 128 square yards, the building itself 52 sq yds.

 

[irondarren]

I think the idea of bussiness rates is to make it unprofitable for anyone to run a bussiness, so they then move to china

 

[rtbcomp]

I think the idea of bussiness rates is to make it unprofitable for anyone to run a bussiness, so they then move to china

I think business rates should be replaced by a profit based tax, as council tax should be by local income tax.

Everyone has a postcode and national insurance number so it could be easily be collected by HMRC and money saved by sacking the people in our town halls who collect local tax.

 

[lexi]

Different here in Scotland . It`s about 90 quid for 3yrs and it`s SEPA who control it.

Alex