Wago splice connectors?

[rtcosic]

I want to 'splice' into a twin and earth lighting circuit to add a spur to another downlighter. The existing downlighters have proprietary plugs and sockets that don't easily lend themselves to additional wiring being inserted into them.

I imagined I had seen a Wago-type connector that enabled this in one neat unit rather than using 3 off 3-way Wago connectors.
My Google search terms and scanning Screwstation's pages of cable connectors haven't revealed these mythical beasts.
Do they exist and I'm too dumb to find them, or are they a figment of my imagination?

I can't be the first person to want to do this!

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

https://www.screwfix.com/p/wago-221-2411-32a-2-way-inline-lever-connectors-60-pack/148ru

Like this?

 

[rtcosic]

I haven't explained myself very well.

Take the twin and earth heading off towards the existing downlights,
Cut it, leaving us with two 'ends'.
Take a new twin and earth heading to your new downlighter.
We now have three 'ends' to join together, each with three conductors.

I want one magic block to connect these three together - that isn't a chocolate block with two conductors jammed into one end!

 

[Craig-SM]

You can get junctions boxes like these

https://www.screwfix.com/p/wago-41a-junction-box-39-x-108-x-44mm-grey/7355f

But you still need to get 3 x triple Wago connectors, obviously not a 50 pack though.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/wago-221-413-32a-3-way-lever-connectors-50-pack/2803r

 

[rtcosic]

You can get junctions boxes like these

https://www.screwfix.com/p/wago-41a-junction-box-39-x-108-x-44mm-grey/7355f

But you still need to get 3 x triple Wago connectors, obviously not a 50 pack though.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/wago-221-413-32a-3-way-lever-connectors-50-pack/2803r

I was hoping to avoid a big, ugly, clumsy arrangement like that, thinking there would be a more elegant solution.

I suppose my next challenge is to find a three-cable Wago box that will accept three 3-way Wago connectors.

Harumph!

 

[Misterg]

I was hoping to avoid a big, ugly, clumsy arrangement like that, thinking there would be a more elegant solution.

I suppose my next challenge is to find a three-cable Wago box that will accept three 3-way Wago connectors.

Harumph!

They do a compact 3 way connector:

Wago 224-112 2.5mm 3-Way Lighting Connector 24A 100 Pack

WE WONT BE BEATEN ON PRICEWe regularly check our prices against our competitors, to ensure we can offer you the best deal possible.

www.electricpoint.com

And a box to suit:

Wagobox 224 Series Junction Box Each

WE WONT BE BEATEN ON PRICEWe regularly check our prices against our competitors, to ensure we can offer you the best deal possible.

www.electricpoint.com

 

[Martinb]

 

[Craig-SM]

A similar option and not as bulky

WAGO Box Pro Junction

The WAGOBOX® PRO eliminates the need for multiple enclosure types, ensuring efficiency and cost-effectiveness. With the ability to support both traditional 221 side-entry and 221 inline connectors, electricians can now rely on a single, adaptable solution for a wide range of applications•...

www.toolstation.com

Toolstation do the smaller packs of Wago 221 triple connectors too.

 

[Dave-sparks]

Do they exist and I'm too dumb to find them, or are they a figment of my imagination?

Yes they do exist, they are made by a company called quickwire, most wholesalers stock them these days.

 

[Dave-sparks]

They look like this, just strip the cable to match the diagram on the side of it and push the whole cable into the end.
This one is a straightforward splitter for up to 4 cables, the also do one that takes power in, power out, switch and light.

 

[jack-daniels]

WAGO Box Pro Junction

The WAGOBOX® PRO eliminates the need for multiple enclosure types, ensuring efficiency and cost-effectiveness. With the ability to support both traditional 221 side-entry and 221 inline connectors, electricians can now rely on a single, adaptable solution for a wide range of applications•...

www.toolstation.com

 

[rtcosic]

quickwire

Perfect! I have a few marbles left after all.

CEF are on the same road as ScrewStation, so I'll drop by tomorrow.

The Forum to the rescue yet again.

 

[MetalMonkey]

Another vote for quickwire, but you could also look at "click flow" as another option.

 

[Dev]

Sort of related and close enough not to start its own thread but I was planning to add 3 or 4 wall mounted bulkhead lights to the outside of my metal garage, on a new separate circuit rather than breaking into the socket ring.

So there’ll be 4 drops up to a cable running long the top of the wall. When I did the sockets I used wago 3 ways in a junction box - is there anything neater? It’ll be lighter flex than the flat T&E above. Something with lever connections not 2 wires into one screw terminal.

 

[Agroshield]

Sort of related and close enough not to start its own thread but I was planning to add 3 or 4 wall mounted bulkhead lights to the outside of my metal garage

Is the cable visible? Are the junctions indoor or outdoor? That affects the IP rating of what you buy.

Another option, especially as it is a new circuit is to have two runs of cable from high level to low level, so a 'continuous' run rather than T-junctions. The extra cost of cable will be less than the junction boxes.

 

[Nick DV]

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/tcl/search?query=wago%20connectors&sort_order=&category_id=&sub_category_id=&manufacturer_ids=

 

[Craig-SM]

Sort of related and close enough not to start its own thread but I was planning to add 3 or 4 wall mounted bulkhead lights to the outside of my metal garage, on a new separate circuit rather than breaking into the socket ring.

So there’ll be 4 drops up to a cable running long the top of the wall. When I did the sockets I used wago 3 ways in a junction box - is there anything neater? It’ll be lighter flex than the flat T&E above. Something with lever connections not 2 wires into one screw terminal.

Just run it as a loop, no junction boxes required

 

[dobbslc]

Plenty of room in a bulkhead to terminate two cables on a loop. I've done my extension lanterns like that, a bit less room but no junction boxes where I can't reach them.