Tube and Tubeless Punctures

[Dilkris]

I run a Harley Davidson – I like it – I’m not suggesting everybody else should.
It runs spoked wheels and therefore runs tires with inner tubes. (Do not confuse these with BMW wheels, which equally can be spoked, but in an unconventional pattern, thereby allowing them to run tubeless tires.)
Anybody who has worked on a Harley will appreciate that to remove a front or back wheel you’d better be in a workshop with lifting equipment and even then the process is a pita, and this you would have to do with a puncture in a tubed tire.
So…. as I want to travel further away from home I considered modifying my rims to enable me to run tubeless tires and with a tubeless tire repair kit, complete with 16/25g CO2 cartridges, I would not render myself stranded in the event of a puncture.
BUT…..
What happens if you have a puncture with a tubeless tire and the “bead” of the tire detaches itself from the rim? Does the CO2 cartridge supply a sufficient volume of air to re-seat the tire?
It would seem that tubes are the preferred option – but only if being able to remove the wheel at the side of the road is an option – which for me, it most certainly isn’t.
What is the “go to” opinion on this? What is everyone doing who is travelling further than “just down the road” ??

 

[barracuda816]

I have no idea how it works on motorbikes but I thought going tubeless with spokes you would use a sealant. Remains liquid until there is a leak then it "plugs" it. And then if you get a big enough puncture that the sealant doesn't work then you could use some sealing strings (These things.) to get you out the poo.

Overall I wouldn't be too concerned, how often do you get punctures at the moment? Tyres have come along way in the last 10+ years.

 

[Muzzer]

Whilst I appreciate some may consider a Harley to be a bike (and not a car, either way), I'd never use those repair kits, as most companies won't repair the tire due to the godawful mess made by the sludge and won't thank you even if they fit a new tire. Doesn't answer your question but a taxi might be cheaper than one of those kits in the long run.

 

[barracuda816]

Whilst I appreciate some may consider a Harley to be a bike (and not a car, either way), I'd never use those repair kits, as most companies won't repair the tire due to the godawful mess made by the sludge and won't thank you even if they fit a new tire. Doesn't answer your question but a taxi might be cheaper than one of those kits in the long run.

I think you are thinking of the old repair foam. The sealant clean up is simple, I have it on my push bike. Just wipes out with some blue roll.

 

[Dilkris]

Overall I wouldn't be too concerned, how often do you get punctures at the moment? Tyres have come along way in the last 10+ years.

This is very true - but when you do - it can be a whole world of pain.

 

[RichardM]

The tubeless wheels I have seen have a ridge built in to the rim to keep the tyre in position if deflated, tubed do not.

I have Michelin Heavy Duty tubes in the XT, a lot thicker than the thin version which easily get pinched.

 

[ajlelectronics]

I have tubeless tyres on the 'bike and in 40+ years of riding, have only had one puncture. However my breakdown recovery service sorted that out. The BMW isn't fun either to do outside a workshop, but they took me to one.

 

[keithski122]

I've been advised to use this:- https://www.puncturesafe.com/

 

[Bornfree]

I've got a Honda fmx650 and have the same worries. Tubed tyres