"thin metal technique"

[gavuk]

Can we please give this a name or abbreviation ?......the forum has a great presence on google ,lets give the technique a name ....and with Malc's permission rename the tutorial as well......perhaps a poll?.....

 

[Drains]

Any preference for a name or acronym Gav?

Manual Pulse Technique, I like. MPT.
or Manual Pulse Mig. MPM.

 

[gavuk]

I'm liking your suggestions Si..........anything beats "the thin metal technique as described in Malc's tutorial"........trigger pulse welding ...TPW...or manual pulse welding ,,MPW......just looking for a common consensus....

 

[Drains]

I'm liking your suggestions Si..........anything beats "the thin metal technique as described in Malc's tutorial"........trigger pulse welding ...TPW...or manual pulse welding ,,MPW......just looking for a common consensus....

Getting better!....

Trigger Pulse Welding sounds reet catchy. Almost patentable.

 

[BillJ]

Those suggestions sound catchy alright but do beginners need yet another pretentious acronym to get their heads around when "thin-metal technique" is descriptive and sounds like something they might be able to grasp (and doesn't send them scurrying off to look for a special expensive welder that has "TPW" or whatever on its feature list)?

One thing we don't get on this forum, thankfully, is "expert" welders showing off and intimidating beginners by bandying obscure acronyms about

 

[drivewasher]

how about just abreviating it to TWT?

 

[gavuk]

You may well be right Bill,but i hate typing .........and I've forgotton how many times i've linked to the tutorial and had to type "thin metal technique"....I share your concerns over acronyms but the name is too long .....if used in conjunction with the tutorial as a linky ,I don't see a problem.......perhaps if the mig tutorial page was changed slightly so when directing new welders there.... it links directley to the video only ?....the video is great and shows exactly what i would otherwise have to describe but it doesn't actually say on the page to " maually pulse the trigger "....thin metal technique.........perhaps instead of renaming ,a re-jig of the page would be in order

 

[Drains]

Do beginners need yet another pretentious acronym to get their heads around when "thin-metal technique" is descriptive

Away Bill, easy now.

You have a point though, jargon is only useful to those who try to look smart or keep their knowledge obscure, but at least what we're talking about here is something descriptive. Thin Metal technique is good - it does what it says, but Trigger Pulse Welding - that's also a perfect description of how it's done.

If "technique" is used instead of "welding" though, people wouldn't look for it as a machine feature, so maybe Trigger Pulse Technique works... TPT, TMT, who cares?

Just my thoughts.

 

[Chickenjohn]

What is wrong with jusy calling it the "thin metal technique"??

Engineer- I've been using my Clarke 150TE for years like this with no problems at all. I started using the thin metal technique years before I found this site.

 

[Ian D]

What about Pmt Pulse Mig Technique.

 

[awemawson]

I've always known it as stitch welding. My acient BOC Autolynx mig welder has a setting to do it automatically, where you can vary the on and off time and I'm fairly sure that they call it stitch welding in the manual.

 

[gavuk]

What is wrong with jusy calling it the "thin metal technique"??

Engineer- I've been using my Clarke 150TE for years like this with no problems at all. I started using the thin metal technique years before I found this site.

I've always used this technique on carbody welding ,like you John ,no problems yet ...20+ years....

No real problem with the name "thin metal technique"...but.....imagine you want to guide a new welder to it .....on the tutorial.....with my limited skills i can only link to the whole tutorial page ,so I would have to give instructions to view the video ,then explain the video is showing the operator pulsing the trigger..... if i could repost the video on the thread OR..used an acronym linked to the video it would make life easier and quicker,...most new members are here to learn to weld cars at some point ,yet they seem to miss the tutorial or at least "the thin metal technique " contained within it.............just me being lazy ,and wanting to make life easier for newbies and me replying

 

[NTwoO]

My mig had a built in stitch function. The welds are cleaner if the argon keeps on flowing.

 

[Chickenjohn]

All you have to do is link to this page http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/thin-metal.htm

and link to the video like this http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/flash/controller-stitch-weld.htm

It is up to the new welder on this site to click on the links, read the info and go practise.

We don't need to spoon- feed anyone. Let them show a little initiative and work it out for themselves. The brilliant info on those pages is far more than I had available when I taught myself to weld!

I have used more expensive welders with a pulse function, but I much prefer to decide myself when to pulse the weld!

 

[gavuk]

It is up to the new welder on this site to click on the links, read the info and go practise.

We don't need to spoon- feed anyone. Let them show a little initiative and work it out for themselves.

I'm not convinced that many newbie's are doing this by the number of times we have to link to Malcs tutorials and still get questions ?...In an Ideal world ,they would read the tutorials first ..however...many try and run beads not realising,this method (for cars) its easier to learn and perform to an mot standard.....in the same way we are constantly being asked " which welder should i buy ?"...although a simple search of the forum displays the question has been answered many times .Is there not a way of reducing these repeated questions?

 

[Drains]

Is there not a way of reducing these repeated questions?

There would be... a "welding FAQ's" banner at the top of the page, with links or answers to those same FAQ's. Save a lot of bother, that would.

Chickenjohn - Initiative? You're an idealist matey.

 

[Chickenjohn]

I'm not convinced that many newbie's are doing this by the number of times we have to link to Malcs tutorials and still get questions ?...In an Ideal world ,they would read the tutorials first ..however...many try and run beads not realising,this method (for cars) its easier to learn and perform to an mot standard.....in the same way we are constantly being asked " which welder should i buy ?"...although a simple search of the forum displays the question has been answered many times .Is there not a way of reducing these repeated questions?

Well, that is what happens in internet forums.

Those who know how- in this case how to weld thin car metal without blowing big holes everywhere, help out those who do not know how.

This happens on every forum I'm a member of. Perhaps, we could have A FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions section, and the enrolling process could include such FAQ questions as well. Of course, some people will still not read those. Unless the site moves towards being "professionals only" and loses the "DIY guide" subtitle then these questions will continue from time to time.

Personally, I have no problem with helping people out. In fact, I enjoy doing so!

 

[Chickenjohn]

There would be... a "welding FAQ's" banner at the top of the page, with links or answers to those same FAQ's. Save a lot of bother, that would.

Chickenjohn - Initiative? You're an idealist matey.

Nothing wrong with having ideals, as long as you don't expect everyone else to uphold them as well.

 

[gavuk]

Personally, I have no problem with helping people out. In fact, I enjoy doing so!

Nor do I..and so do I....the discussion is can we make it easier?by renaming the technique or highlighting it, by tweaking the tutorial.... its the lack of professionals that makes this forum so friendly and i certainly wouldn't want it to change,to be fair there are not many pro welders who even post on newbie/car questions anyway,they can afford decent cars

 

[Chickenjohn]

-snip-to be fair there are not many pro welders who even post on newbie/car questions anyway,they can afford decent cars

Not the "pro" welders I know in Kent! All the companies round here, consider and pay welders as "unskilled labour".