sun tan

[mattiemjbb]

is it normal to get a tan from welding? i got a nice tan on my arms and round my neck where my shirt was.

i was conisdering welding in my underpants to get a full body tan

 

[Hitch]

Its not a sun tan, its arc burn... causes skin cancer in the long term.

It will be sore tommorow.

Hopefully you won't do it again- coverup with some overalls, or at least a jumper.

 

[mattiemjbb]

oh i even went out and got some leather underpants to prevent burns

 

[malcolm]

The science is interesting. The light generated by hot things (like the sun and a welding arc) is high across a wide frequency range. Some frequencies of light especially in the ultraviolet range give you a tan, and others are bad for skin cancer. UVA and UVB and all that.

That's what the sun creams are all about - if the cream filtered out all light it would be black in colour. They just try to filter the nasty bits of light.

The ozone layer is credited with filtering out many of the nasties which is why the Australians get a lot of skin cancer (they get a lot of sun but don't have much ozone anymore).

With arc light you don't get any filtering effect, so it's worse for cancer than standing out in the sun and getting burned.

Having said that welders tend to die of lung desease.

 

[weldequip]

Having said that welders tend to die of lung desease.

Or poverty, if you are in the supply game!


weldequip

 

[snowcat]

Having said that welders tend to die of lung desease.

Il just go and get the rope now then, were's them kitchen knives.

 

[Drains]

Or poverty, if you are in the supply game!

weldequip

Oh Steve, I wish I was as poor as you!

Pass me a hankie, I think i've got something in me eye....

 

[Hitch]

Watch that Si, heel be selling goggles next

 

[rtbcomp]

Or poverty, if you are in the supply game!


weldequip

Never mind, I'll be paying for that regulator soon

 

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Having said that welders tend to die of lung desease.

Is that quite a related disease to welding? Because of the fumes given off?

Obviously the risk is much less for the occasional hobby welder compared to a garage/fabrication works.

 

[Drains]

Is that quite a related disease to welding? Because of the fumes given off?

Obviously the risk is much less for the occasional hobby welder compared to a garage/fabrication works.

Big post here folks. Read on.... (this comes from lungdisease.about.com)




There are many dangers welders should be aware of. The hazards, however, depend on such factors as:

# welding method
# the composition of the welding rod
# the filler and base metals
# the metal coatings
# ventilation during welding activities

Welding should always take place in a well ventilated area to allow the toxic fumes and gases to escape. Gases, such as argon, displace oxygen, causing death.

Toxic Metals
The following toxic metals may also cause health problems:

Stainless Steel - Stainless steel is composed of nickel and chromium, both of which can cause cancer. Nickel has been known to cause asthma, and chromium can cause sinus problems. In extreme cases, chromium can cause holes to develop between the nostrils inside the nose.

Mild and Carbon Steel - Both types of these materials contain manganese, which has been found to cause Parkinson's disease.

Zinc - Zinc, which is found in galvanized metal and paint, can cause metal fume fever. People exposed to metal fume fever have symptoms of flu that can last for several hours or even days after exposure.

Lead - Lead can be found in paint. It can cause headaches, muscle soreness, nausea, cramping, irritability, loss of memory, anemia, and may also damage the kidneys and nervous system.

Cadmium - Cadmium is found in some paints and fillers. It has been known to cause cancer and damage to the kidneys.

Toxic Gases
It is very important that welders be aware of their surroundings during welding activities. Be sure to weld in areas away from chlorinated solvents. A poisonous gas, called phosgene, can cause fluid to accumulate in the lungs. This fluid accumulation can cause a "drowning" affect, leading to death.

During welding activities, gases are produced. These gases are inhaled and can cause damage to your lungs and airways. The following gases can be dangerous health hazards:

# Carbon monoxide
# Ozone
# Nitrogen oxides

How to Protect Yourself
# Weld in ventilated areas only
# Remove paints, solvents, and residues before welding
# Use the safest welding method possible
# Use low-fume welding rods when possible
# Use local-exhaust ventilation and keep exhaust hood openings 4 to 6 inches from the fume source
# Use air blowers to blow fumes away from you
# Keep your face as far away from the welding plume as possible
# Use a respirator when possible - especially when ventilation is inadequate
# Follow OSHA guidelines for proper welding safety

 

[snowcat]

thanks si, not sure i wanted to know.

 

[Drains]

thanks si, not sure i wanted to know.

Sorry mate - just trying to help . But as they say, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions

 

[premmington]

Malcolm... Interesting post!

Boiler suit best solution!

As for lungs, am I right in saying its the Boron (heavy metals from welding fume) that causes lung problems?

I've been sensitized from two pack paint, free isocynides (HMDI). So get asthma type symptoms on each further exposure.

Not much info about....

Interested on your input....?

Peter.R.

http://www.remmington.plus.com

 

[Axedieselman]

Doesn't anyone read their MSDS anymore? Jeez! Your'e breathing in toxic carcinagens for christ's sake. If you dont wear a breathing mask, unless your'e outside in windy conditions, one might as well take up smoking and inhaling cigars for a living! Read the MSDS that comes with the box of electrodes!!! Hobby welders are no safer malcom....

 

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Doesn't anyone read their MSDS anymore? Jeez! Your'e breathing in toxic carcinagens for christ's sake. If you dont wear a breathing mask, unless your'e outside in windy conditions, one might as well take up smoking and inhaling cigars for a living! Read the MSDS that comes with the box of electrodes!!! Hobby welders are no safer malcom....

Is that the case with all welding? Or just zinc etc coated metal?