Stupidity beckons..

[steviec_lj]

Forgive me, its Sunday, I get very little sleep for various reasons, and brain doesn't want to function this morning.

First off, SIP Ideal 240N.
Seller has pictured it with a 5pin, 3ph, 32a plug, but the data plate reads 230v. Am I just being completely stupid, overthinking it, and the welder is actually single phase, not three as the seller states?

It'll want a huge supply but that's fine..

Picture attached.


Second, a Murex 210-1.
Been in contact with the seller as its advertised as Spares/Repairs. It'll weld ok on the lower settings, then blow the fuse in the plug. To me this makes out its on a 13a plug which could indicate why it blows the fuse on the higher settings, but...

Any known issues, or reasons why a welder would constantly blow fuses?

I'm pretty good with electrics now, having been on a couple of short courses, and it's something I could get into, keeping machines 'on the road' as such.

 

[BrokenBiker]

you can still run a 230v machine off a 415 supply, just don't connect all the wires. To run at full 240A capacity it needs a 46A input, so a 50A breaker really

415 is only between phases, between phase and neutral is 230, so you only connect one phase and neutral inside plug, then plug It into your supply if you have 415, otherwise put a blue 64 amp plug on it with a 50A breaker

 

[Wallace]

I would take a wedge of cash and go have a look at the Murex to see if you can do a deal, if there is a fuse in the plug the 13A plug top is are the only ones I know of that contain fuses so keep quiet and you might blag a bargain for someone's stupdity!

 

[steviec_lj]

The SIP certainly is a bit of a beast, probably more than the Main Fuse could take combined with what the Mrs has on during the day haha. Although, hmmm, I do have 63amps going to the workshop, so could be done.

The Murex is also tempting, and a potential bargain. Are parts readily available should it be something more than a fuse that's at fault? Merely speculating the potential costs of repairs.

 

[BrokenBiker]

it depend son how often you want to use 240amp welding current, if you are only using the lower half of the current rnage then you wont come near the 46amp input current

 

[Rig Pig]

Anyone know if the bigger SIPs are better quality than there diy machines?

 

[ben8vgte]

Anyone know if the bigger SIPs are better quality than there diy machines?

Going by my friends SIP "professional" then no.

 

[steviec_lj]

Anyone know if the bigger SIPs are better quality than there diy machines?

I don't personally see the problem with them.

A little like the apparent problems with a Seigen 130a Mig Welders, I've had one for 5 years and had no problems with it.
Its had a new wire feed motor, liner, and the odd replacement tip and shroud, but nothing major.

it depend son how often you want to use 240amp welding current, if you are only using the lower half of the current rnage then you wont come near the 46amp input current

Its got to be all or nothing! Nah, probably won't go over about 150amps, but it would be nice to have the headroom.