Smaller Air-Cooled Torch For AC/DC 201 TIG

[Brad93]

Hi guys, have a R-Tech 201 with the WP26 torch however I'm finding the torch a bit large to manoeuvre. Is there a smaller air cooled torch available or do you have to go down the water-cooled route?

 

[matt1978]

WP 17 and WP 9 are both smaller, but as you know you need more amps for ACDC. The duty cycles on those torch sizes for AC welding are not great. All depends at how many amps you want to weld at and for how long......

 

[wheresmejumper]

ck trimline are very nice torches,smaller size and flexy cables.
rated at 100% duty on both ac and dc

 

[matt1978]

ck trimline are very nice torches,smaller size and flexy cables.
rated at 100% duty on both ac and dc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3-cavtIrQM

Look very good.

I think Rapid Welding has the UK agency for them.

 

[wheresmejumper]

they are worth every penny,but rapid know how to charge.
a lot cheaper to import from weldfabulous in the states.
my ck150 was 150 amps ac at 100%,so was above what my 210amp tig was able to push out.around half the size of the wp26 that comes with an rtech

 

[chevy2]

I use a wp9 CK torch rated at 130amps on ac and dc,
does appear to handle the amperage well,
Its the torch i use the most and only use the wp26 for bigger stuff,

If you go for a ck torch be sure to get the superflex cable with it,
you'll wonder why you used the regular rubber ones.

 

[Brad93]

Does anybody know what the difference is between a 2-piece and 1-piece torch?

 

[chevy2]

You should need a one piece torch for an r-tech,

you only to connect the torch with the brass nut at the end of the torch to the adaptor at the bottom right of the welder leaving the adaptor and gas hose in place,

depending on how you trigger the arc, if by torch button you'll need a 4 pin plug wired to suit the r-tech machine.

 

[Brad93]

Got a foot pedal so no need for a switch. Just got a quote from Rapid for a Wp9 flex head but I'm not sure if I should get a 17 so I can use it with aluminium on AC?

May even look at going water cooled in the future.

 

[chevy2]

The wp9 will still do ali up to around 100-120 amps but not for continous stuff though,

I simply use a 9 for most stuff and only use the 26 when it justifies the bigger torch.

 

[justmental]

i use a 17 flex with stubby gas lense and cups on it as we all know using a smaller torch makes it so much better for getting into them tight spots especially climbing in and out of tube work.

 

[RapidResponse]

A word of warning, CK torches from the states have American machine connections as pictured. UK torches are imported with BSP connections.

 

[zardoz]

A word of warning, CK torches from the states have American machine connections as pictured. UK torches are imported with BSP connections.

Bugger! I have been pondering getting one from the US simply for price. They are amazingly expensive in the UK. Im sure they must be chanegeable or maybe even an adaptor of some sort ? (he say, hopefully?)

 

[ben8vgte]

Have a look on ebay, rapid sell end of line stuff. I have a wp26 trimline that was 40 quid or so, fair enough it does not have the superflex but for a 200A ac/dc much better! Though my 150 flexloc is now the weapon of choice for most things...

 

[doubleboost]

Hi
I use a wp9 on my R-Tech TIG
This video shows the set up

 

[zardoz]

they are worth every penny,but rapid know how to charge.
a lot cheaper to import from weldfabulous in the states.
my ck150 was 150 amps ac at 100%,so was above what my 210amp tig was able to push out.around half the size of the wp26 that comes with an rtech

can i ask how much the postage was for that as I am pondering getting one ?

 

[wheresmejumper]

Around 40 dollars to Ireland, max 50.

 

[Richard.]

Go water cooled if you want to do it properly . I have an esab tx201 on my machine and it's lovely and small to move around and will take 170 amps plus on ac all day. They are seriously lovely torches and can be made to fit anything. Mine is on a fronius.