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£700-£1100
bottom end, machine only bit rough -- no accessories.
top end, good looked after machine, with change wheels, steadies, chucks, face plate, catch plate, maybe nose reducer. Not too sure if the 11 came with a 36 speed gearbox much better and be a later model if it has.
bear i mind you may need inverter/converter to get the machine to run as it will be 3 phase and if your lucky fitted with a start delta motor- but dont hold your beath. they were not too popular, might have been fitted with an inferior setup using a 240 Motor-not ideal.
Stan
if you want to see what they have brought on E bay do a backwards search.
just a very quick look:
11" didnt sell at £1800
12" sold £510
12" sold 620
L5 sold £475
havent checked what if anything they included.
Stan
bottom end, machine only bit rough -- no accessories.
top end, good looked after machine, with change wheels, steadies, chucks, face plate, catch plate, maybe nose reducer. Not too sure if the 11 came with a 36 speed gearbox much better and be a later model if it has.
bear i mind you may need inverter/converter to get the machine to run as it will be 3 phase and if your lucky fitted with a start delta motor- but dont hold your beath. they were not too popular, might have been fitted with an inferior setup using a 240 Motor-not ideal.
Stan
if you want to see what they have brought on E bay do a backwards search.
just a very quick look:
11" didnt sell at £1800
12" sold £510
12" sold 620
L5 sold £475
havent checked what if anything they included.
Stan
Piero
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Thats grate Ford34/2
its been converted to single phase with a 240v motor, dont know what make of motor
there asking £900 but it does have quite a few extra bits, 3 and 4 jaw chuck etc
as to condition, as said, wont know till or if I see it.
Being a virgin to lathes, are the Harrison type 11 any good for a starter (new) guy like me
its been converted to single phase with a 240v motor, dont know what make of motor
there asking £900 but it does have quite a few extra bits, 3 and 4 jaw chuck etc
as to condition, as said, wont know till or if I see it.
Being a virgin to lathes, are the Harrison type 11 any good for a starter (new) guy like me
Relativly Bomb proof, excellent heavy construction, popular with apprectiship training schools, Schools,colleges. theres a few little odd bits and pieces one could critisize, maybe worth a check if its metric or imperial, the early ones - imperial, the later ones -Metric.-- a pic would be nice and then we all know what it is and can offer help.
Opinions might well say the single phase motor is by no means as good as the 4 pole ,3 phase original. you may see a pattern in the machined material - coming from the Motor. As its single phase, the use of todays inverters on 3 phase stuff, might mean you cannot electronicly control the speed. The Price is up there at the top of the tree, It needs to be pretty good for £900, there are still excellent examples of this 11" the 5A the 140--- all similary identical lathes. Accessories and spares seem to get rarer and as such the price often creeps up. It has quite a footprint-- make sure you have the space, its very top heavy if you have to move it -- so be extra carefull and have a plan and a backup. expect 3/4 Ton weight.Two sets of holes through the base to insert bars for lifting, dont lift by the bed,tailstock,chuck ,etc. With extreme care it can be roled on bars, but do be very very carefull, if it decides to tip-- 3/4 ton you aint gonna stop it falling.
If you buy it consider joing the Harrison lathe user group, not a very busy group, but if or when you need any help, The group consists of Harrison owners who might well have come accross the problem before and found a solution.
Can probably sort you out a manual in PDF form.
Stan
Opinions might well say the single phase motor is by no means as good as the 4 pole ,3 phase original. you may see a pattern in the machined material - coming from the Motor. As its single phase, the use of todays inverters on 3 phase stuff, might mean you cannot electronicly control the speed. The Price is up there at the top of the tree, It needs to be pretty good for £900, there are still excellent examples of this 11" the 5A the 140--- all similary identical lathes. Accessories and spares seem to get rarer and as such the price often creeps up. It has quite a footprint-- make sure you have the space, its very top heavy if you have to move it -- so be extra carefull and have a plan and a backup. expect 3/4 Ton weight.Two sets of holes through the base to insert bars for lifting, dont lift by the bed,tailstock,chuck ,etc. With extreme care it can be roled on bars, but do be very very carefull, if it decides to tip-- 3/4 ton you aint gonna stop it falling.
If you buy it consider joing the Harrison lathe user group, not a very busy group, but if or when you need any help, The group consists of Harrison owners who might well have come accross the problem before and found a solution.
Can probably sort you out a manual in PDF form.
Stan
On the latest machines. The spindle in the headstock had an L00, (L zero zero) fitting--a big taper for the chuck to fit onto and secured with a big "C" spanner fitting on the ring behind the chuck, the earlier ones had a threaded sindle and the chuck simply screwed on like a nut and bolt.
Reading material::
http://www.lathes.co.uk/harrison/page4.html
the 5A and 140 and to some ectent L6 are all similar machines.
Stan
Reading material::
http://www.lathes.co.uk/harrison/page4.html
the 5A and 140 and to some ectent L6 are all similar machines.
Stan
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I was waiting on some photos from said seller.
He had had some one let him down previously at a price off £1,000
he re advertised it at the Now £900 pounds
Low and be hold, same seller is just some how added £600 value to it Lol
and it now sits on ebay at £1,500
looks a little to used for even £900 let alone £1,500
He had had some one let him down previously at a price off £1,000
he re advertised it at the Now £900 pounds
Low and be hold, same seller is just some how added £600 value to it Lol
and it now sits on ebay at £1,500
looks a little to used for even £900 let alone £1,500
Let it go Piero I wouldn't give £600 for that even if close. Can tell its had a hard life and a recent clean up but may be lucky. Has the later 140 square headstock but not the full gearbox with three top levers. Minimal tooling as well that will set you back several hundred.
Paid £900 for a 140, 11" 4 jaw, 3 jaw, face plates, travelling steady, coolant, tooling, fixed steady and the cruncher the necessity of full set of change wheels. Had my use out of it and scrapped £200 job lot, needed the space.
Paid £850 for an ex GKN M300 tooled, sold Dickson toolpost £100, just bide your time ebays can be a dumping ground for stuff sub standard.
Paid £900 for a 140, 11" 4 jaw, 3 jaw, face plates, travelling steady, coolant, tooling, fixed steady and the cruncher the necessity of full set of change wheels. Had my use out of it and scrapped £200 job lot, needed the space.
Paid £850 for an ex GKN M300 tooled, sold Dickson toolpost £100, just bide your time ebays can be a dumping ground for stuff sub standard.
Looks to have had a canny hard life from the condition-- which is nowt to go by, seems to be missing a door, some electrics to control stopping and starting the motor. Guessing it plugs in to the double socket behind the lathe,-- together with the coolant pump - which also has no electrics, Not ideal. 4 jaw chuck is not an original-separate backplate, wheel handle on tailstock is not an original. Nice new tool post and 3 holders+ parting off tool and holder. Pehaps as there are no change wheels in the pics -maybe it only has what are behind the change wheel cover-- ideally need the full set. needs checking. Also mentions tooling -none in pics??
For £1500 I would let him take his chance with the auction. I`ll be suprised if it makes the £1500.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Harrison-...600?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2ede852de0
If you follow the Forum on a regular basis you will have seen Doubleboost purchase a 140 with a factory full of goodies for a lot less than the asking price of this one, It was in such good condition it almost just came out of the Harrison factory.http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/harrison-140-lathe-for-sale-in-w-yorks-area.52830/page-3
It was also featured in his last sunday night night cap -- sixty. It would be true to say, John so richley deserves the lathe or maybe it should be the Lathe deserves John. He`s ever so pleased with it, If the boxford has to go it will pull at his heart strings.
pass on it just now, if you are in NO hurry. I personnaly dont think its worth £1500---only my opinion though
Stan
For £1500 I would let him take his chance with the auction. I`ll be suprised if it makes the £1500.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Harrison-...600?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2ede852de0
If you follow the Forum on a regular basis you will have seen Doubleboost purchase a 140 with a factory full of goodies for a lot less than the asking price of this one, It was in such good condition it almost just came out of the Harrison factory.http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/harrison-140-lathe-for-sale-in-w-yorks-area.52830/page-3
It was also featured in his last sunday night night cap -- sixty. It would be true to say, John so richley deserves the lathe or maybe it should be the Lathe deserves John. He`s ever so pleased with it, If the boxford has to go it will pull at his heart strings.
pass on it just now, if you are in NO hurry. I personnaly dont think its worth £1500---only my opinion though
Stan
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Gave £350 for my L5A. Quite a bit of wear in the nuts on leadscrews, and no acessories at all. If someone wants to come and check the rest of it for wear, well be my guest because I haven't got around to it yet.
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Just learning about these Harrison lathes and so have been gobbling up information recently. My (albeit limited) experience tells me everything Stan is saying is spot on. The cost of Doubleboost's mint one and the price of serviceable used ones at about £6-800 suggests that the BiN price he has set is probably double the price you should expect to pay.
Ask around locally. Use eBay but check regularly and filter results by distance, when one comes up, go to see it that evening and take a deposit so you can pounce if it fits the bill.
Ask around locally. Use eBay but check regularly and filter results by distance, when one comes up, go to see it that evening and take a deposit so you can pounce if it fits the bill.
