Por15 question

[fuff66uk]

I am thinking of doing my car floor inside and out with the por15 rust preventative paint,but on one website i have seen a video of it being used and it says to spray it with a cleaning chemical then wash off with running water,would it work properly if i just painted the por15 straight onto the rust because obviously i can't hose the inside of the car ?

 

[steveo3002]

ive used it a few times , ive found it only works over blasted metal or if you use thier prep stuff 100% to the instructions

when it works right its good , when its not right it just peels off

id look at epoxy mastic /jotamastic etc over wire wheeled steel

 

[pedrobedro]

POR stands for "paint on rust" but as above it needs their preparation before you apply it and it is not cheap. It is not for previously painted surfaces from what I have read and it peels off shiny bare metal.

 

[steveo3002]

peels off 36 grit grinder marks too lol...just been peeling some off this afternoon

 

[mike 109444]

Gawd blimey fuff66uk your not on to paiinting the consul alreadyYou only got it the other day But seriously There was a test going on in one of the classic car mags a couple of months ago where they painted on various rust treatment/remover/preventer products to the bonnet of I think a ford seria. They would then look at the results in a later edition. I did not get that later edition so have yet to see the results. What I have been doing whilst working on my project is to cut out and replace rot. Remove surface rust and give a spray with phosphoric acid product. BnQ do 2lt metal restorer and MM do a similar product (but dearer per lt) Use in one of thoses spray bottles £1 in cheep jack shop or garden sprayer or the wifes empty cleaner spray bottles. Both contain Phosphoric acid. If you search the forum for somthing call "milk stone down" I understand it's a product used to remove limescale in milking equipment. It is said to be a stronger dilution of Phosphoric acid and cheeper but not yet tried, keep meaning to pop into a farm products shop. Once I have treated rust with the acid I give it a spray with Galv spray from ScrewFix 6 tins for about £20. Not the cheepested way with galv spray but in rattle cans so convenant and protects till I get around to a proper finish. I also spray on back of panels and patches that won't be accessable once welded on and it does seam to stay and not burn off. remove from area to be welded as it upsets the weld pool. See pic of products below

 

[fuff66uk]

I wish Mike lol,i will get some of that from screwfix,they have a branch a few miles from me,is the swarfega stuff good ?

 

[michael1703]

Having seen pics of your consul, you would be better off stripping it and getting it shot blasted and etch primed. should be about £200, gets rid of all the corrosion and bodges, is quicker than scraping and sanding and saves you fortunes in abrasives and rust converters etc

 

[fuff66uk]

I would love to do that Michael but i am restoring the car on my drive at the front of the house & sadly i have nowhere to store all the parts if i remove them all in one go

 

[fuff66uk]

Gawd blimey fuff66uk your not on to paiinting the consul alreadyYou only got it the other day But seriously There was a test going on in one of the classic car mags a couple of months ago where they painted on various rust treatment/remover/preventer products to the bonnet of I think a ford seria. They would then look at the results in a later edition. I did not get that later edition so have yet to see the results. What I have been doing whilst working on my project is to cut out and replace rot. Remove surface rust and give a spray with phosphoric acid product. BnQ do 2lt metal restorer and MM do a similar product (but dearer per lt) Use in one of thoses spray bottles £1 in cheep jack shop or garden sprayer or the wifes empty cleaner spray bottles. Both contain Phosphoric acid. If you search the forum for somthing call "milk stone down" I understand it's a product used to remove limescale in milking equipment. It is said to be a stronger dilution of Phosphoric acid and cheeper but not yet tried, keep meaning to pop into a farm products shop. Once I have treated rust with the acid I give it a spray with Galv spray from ScrewFix 6 tins for about £20. Not the cheepested way with galv spray but in rattle cans so convenant and protects till I get around to a proper finish. I also spray on back of panels and patches that won't be accessable once welded on and it does seam to stay and not burn off. remove from area to be welded as it upsets the weld pool. See pic of products below

I went into my local b&q today,they had never heard of the Swarfega Metal Cleaner & Restorer so a telephoned Deb who make Swarfega,apparently B&q stopped taking it about 6 months ago,and they couldn't help with suppliers in my area,i have seen 5l on ebay but i don't think i will need that much

 

[steveo3002]

bilt hamber do a rust removing gel ..its pretty good except in the cold weather

 

[fuff66uk]

Cheers steveo,i picked up a litre of the clarke one from machine mart today,never used it before so time will tell if it's any good,but it did turn a dark grey as it says then i primed it with the zinc spray from screwfix that mike told me about above,i just thought as i am removing the rust i would prime the good bits as i go then cut out the bad and replace