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W4yne
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I pay for a 10lt bottle, 200bar, £23 inc VAT. 95/5% mix
If your bottle is a 20lt filled to 200bar then £45 is about right, Air Products I believe?
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...8jcIKqbKw&sig2=aEkZpMRBwsxpjN3z_VPmPQ&cad=rja
If your bottle is a 20lt filled to 200bar then £45 is about right, Air Products I believe?
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...8jcIKqbKw&sig2=aEkZpMRBwsxpjN3z_VPmPQ&cad=rja
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sounds like John has a size W, so the price does not sound bad to me, Delete the firms name from the post if you can.
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Well I'm glad my £20 a month is going to good use enabling others to get things on the cheap!!!
I was under the impression that no individual can OWN these bottles, even if you find one on the side of the road it doesn't make you the owner, the companies own all bottles....I seem to recall seeing big ££££££ charges if you lose or break one. I don't know of ANYONE owning a bottle. Unless of course we're talking about rent free bottles, but i understand they are paid for on a "Right to use" policy.
I think the sad part about this is some poor ****** who rented the said "brand name" bottle (I assume - correct me if I'm wrong) probably is either still paying rent on it, or had one of those ridiculously high loss charges imposed on him.
I was under the impression that no individual can OWN these bottles, even if you find one on the side of the road it doesn't make you the owner, the companies own all bottles....I seem to recall seeing big ££££££ charges if you lose or break one. I don't know of ANYONE owning a bottle. Unless of course we're talking about rent free bottles, but i understand they are paid for on a "Right to use" policy.
I think the sad part about this is some poor ****** who rented the said "brand name" bottle (I assume - correct me if I'm wrong) probably is either still paying rent on it, or had one of those ridiculously high loss charges imposed on him.
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I'm not sure how bottle owning works. I bought a second hand welder that came with a full (pub size?)bottle of co2. There is a stencilled print on the side saying this bottle is property of...........
I thought cool someone local to get refills from emailed them then tried ringing to find the company has gone bust. So who owns the bottle now
I thought cool someone local to get refills from emailed them then tried ringing to find the company has gone bust. So who owns the bottle now
danelectro
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That's a very good point stu, who does own it.......I'm not sure what happens with pub bottles, I know there were a load of them floating around years back, but no one would fill them. perhaps that was a "right to use" type of agreement, but I'd have probably not paid for a something that is not owned by the seller.....we hear of people buying secondhand cars only to find they were nicked, then the car is taken from the new "owner" thus losing their hard earned cash. I can only think it's the same principle?? again I'm just assuming, someone might like to put me straight on that one.
I only know that genuine gas bottles, for welding, are only ever rented on a monthly basis, or the rent free ones where you pay for "right of use" over a number of years.
I know for sure that if someone offered me a free bottle with Air Products, or BOC or any other known supplier stamped all over it, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
I only know that genuine gas bottles, for welding, are only ever rented on a monthly basis, or the rent free ones where you pay for "right of use" over a number of years.
I know for sure that if someone offered me a free bottle with Air Products, or BOC or any other known supplier stamped all over it, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
I'm not sure how bottle owning works. I bought a second hand welder that came with a full (pub size?)bottle of co2. There is a stencilled print on the side saying this bottle is property of...........
I thought cool someone local to get refills from emailed them then tried ringing to find the company has gone bust. So who owns the bottle now
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Please note that not all "Rent free deals " are not "right of use " ( rental in disguise ) most are refundable deposits that are not time limited.
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Could you tell me who? and what the deal is.....only because I'd like to get one....legitimately of course.
Oh, and there's two "nots" in your post, can I read that as "not all rent free deals are right of use"?
Oh, and there's two "nots" in your post, can I read that as "not all rent free deals are right of use"?
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Hi ,
your right about the " nots " was rather a long day yesterday , even at 8.00 in the evening .
My company , Southwest Gas Supplies Ltd , have distributors in Norfolk where you can pay a refundable deposit for a cylinder and then pay for the gas . The full list of distributors is on the website, www.southwestgassupplies.co.uk .
We also offer forum members a cashback on their first bottle ( £10.00 on 10 litre and £20.00 on 20 litre bottles ) All you have to do to get the cashback is to send me a PM confirming the purchase then post ( yes snail mail ) a copy of your invoice plus your details ) and we send you a cheque .
Alan
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danelectro
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Don't worry about the "nots" I was teasing you!!
I'm just about to send back my air products bottle, and go down the rent free route.
So, I'd go to you and ask for a 20 litre argon/5% co2 bottle, what will be be my upfront cost?
I assume I'd pay the deposit? £?
And also pay for the 20l gas £?
Is there anything else on top of that? and I assume I keep refilling the bottle as I need, and keep the bottle for as long as I need? then if I give up welding, I take the bottle back and get my deposit back???
Thanks for taking the time to answer these, my air products bottle is now empty, and looking at doing this sooner rather than later!
I'm just about to send back my air products bottle, and go down the rent free route.
So, I'd go to you and ask for a 20 litre argon/5% co2 bottle, what will be be my upfront cost?
I assume I'd pay the deposit? £?
And also pay for the 20l gas £?
Is there anything else on top of that? and I assume I keep refilling the bottle as I need, and keep the bottle for as long as I need? then if I give up welding, I take the bottle back and get my deposit back???
Thanks for taking the time to answer these, my air products bottle is now empty, and looking at doing this sooner rather than later!
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I have to ask you to contact one of our distributors for prices as they are free to set their own prices . If you are near Diss i would recomend All Make Motor Parts , but any of the distributors in your area will be able to help you with a 20 litre 5% CO2/Argon mix .
Yes, refills are just the price of the gas and you get the deposit back when you give the bottle back , no matter how long you keep the bottle you still get the deposit back.
Alan
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danelectro
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Thanks for that Alan,
Well I just phoned Central auto Supplies....they haven't got any, and I was a little bit taken aback by the price.
£65 deposit for the bottle (20l) and then £69.99 + VAT for the gas!!
Is this about right??
I don't mind the bottle deposit, but i thought the gas price was a tad high...or am I out of touch?!!!
Well I just phoned Central auto Supplies....they haven't got any, and I was a little bit taken aback by the price.
£65 deposit for the bottle (20l) and then £69.99 + VAT for the gas!!
Is this about right??
I don't mind the bottle deposit, but i thought the gas price was a tad high...or am I out of touch?!!!
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That is a little high, phone around and get a couple of quotes from other distributors
Alan
