rcx132
Philip
- Messages
- 3,034
- Location
- London, UK
I thought I'd checked before I bought my Jotun paint that it could be applied without a full respirator. But last night I was browsing through the Jotun catalogue and it says that Jotun top-coat (Jotun AX or XP) does contain isocyanate.
So I re-read read the Jotun datasheet and under health & safety it says... use in well ventilated conditions.... do not inhale spray mist... avoid skin contact. No mention of full respirator.
I re-phoned SML. Their first operator said regular mask is enough. Then passed me to his friend who said full forced air is needed. I then phoned Jotun, they are saying a carbon filter mask (or is it charcoal?) is ok in a well ventilated area.
The Jotun man then told me off again for applying their epoxy primer with a spray gun, saying it shouldn't be thinned beyond 5%. I told him that at 10% it goes through the spray gun nicely but he seemed unconvinced saying it would need 40%. With my next load of parts I'll see if the stuff can get through with 5% thinner.
I've also just seen this product advertised on Google AdWords as being specifically safe for Isocyanate paints. It looks like a charcoal filter but if you read it's just a P3 filter (regular paper/fabric filter), same specification as the masks from Screwfix, only difference is it's full face: http://www.gasmask-respirators.co.u...bY525cSdnaX9pSS_ggwDMhIx-hIcROAcpKRoCllbw_wcB
I'm probably going to spray my car later using 2K so maybe I should just invest in a full force fed mask. I've seen branded ones for under £200. What worried me with the full force fed masks is the filters. If you want approved filters they cost hundreds. From what I've read on the forums people are using unapproved filters. I suppose that's no more dangerous than the other s**t I do but still worrying. God there's even three stage Chinese filters on ebay listed as safe with fed air masks, but when you read the description the three stages don't even include the essential coalescing filter. They've just included three regular filters of decreasing mesh size! Crazy!
What are people's thoughts?
So I re-read read the Jotun datasheet and under health & safety it says... use in well ventilated conditions.... do not inhale spray mist... avoid skin contact. No mention of full respirator.
I re-phoned SML. Their first operator said regular mask is enough. Then passed me to his friend who said full forced air is needed. I then phoned Jotun, they are saying a carbon filter mask (or is it charcoal?) is ok in a well ventilated area.
The Jotun man then told me off again for applying their epoxy primer with a spray gun, saying it shouldn't be thinned beyond 5%. I told him that at 10% it goes through the spray gun nicely but he seemed unconvinced saying it would need 40%. With my next load of parts I'll see if the stuff can get through with 5% thinner.
I've also just seen this product advertised on Google AdWords as being specifically safe for Isocyanate paints. It looks like a charcoal filter but if you read it's just a P3 filter (regular paper/fabric filter), same specification as the masks from Screwfix, only difference is it's full face: http://www.gasmask-respirators.co.u...bY525cSdnaX9pSS_ggwDMhIx-hIcROAcpKRoCllbw_wcB
I'm probably going to spray my car later using 2K so maybe I should just invest in a full force fed mask. I've seen branded ones for under £200. What worried me with the full force fed masks is the filters. If you want approved filters they cost hundreds. From what I've read on the forums people are using unapproved filters. I suppose that's no more dangerous than the other s**t I do but still worrying. God there's even three stage Chinese filters on ebay listed as safe with fed air masks, but when you read the description the three stages don't even include the essential coalescing filter. They've just included three regular filters of decreasing mesh size! Crazy!
What are people's thoughts?
Last edited:
