Smallfry
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Is there really no one nearer ?
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charlysays
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Noone who's an HMG supplier.
I'll probably end up going 1k from an experienced car paint supplier tbh.
Given that nisocoat 2 is advertised as being available in ral, bs , automotive and fleet colours I don't see why it's such a problem them producing a paint which is a very close match. You'd think they could just spectrometer it, mix to to whatever code comes up and that would end up a lot closer than what they've mixed up so far.
Certainly the 2 aerosols and touch up pot I've had from the likes of motip and holts were able to get acceptably close via me just ordering online via the 04318 code.
This is why I think they've gone ridiculously wrong somewhere and seems to be blaming the specific product saying it's because it's an industrial coating when the info from hmg themselves indicate that it can be mixed up just as well as automotive paint.
All the schemes use scales, standox had all the colours on a microfiche and occasionally they’d send updates for certain mixes. Probably all on a hard drive now.
norsa
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Your "spray outs" look satin in finish. Is it just the photo not showing the gloss or are they trying to sell you a water based basecoat? If your supplier knows anything about paint, they would certainly see the difference. Its not a shade issue after all, its a totally different colour.
Nick
Nick
I would forget about using hmg paint. Get a refund on that green paint.
I would find a paint supplier who can supply a solvent base direct to gloss car paint.
Most proper paint suppliers can do this.
Get them to scan your bonnet or your petrol flap.
I would find a paint supplier who can supply a solvent base direct to gloss car paint.
Most proper paint suppliers can do this.
Get them to scan your bonnet or your petrol flap.
charlysays
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In the end I think the situations been salvaged.
I went to another paint place and even though they couldn't do a 1k for me their senior colour matching guy spent about 20 mins going through HMG colour box whites both indoors and outdoors with bonnet and we settled on hmg 0207 and it's a pretty much exact match, better than any of the colour match aerosols and touch up pens I've previously had.
Went back to the place which sells hmg paint and they mixed up 2 litres of this paint manually for no charge. They reckon the machine has an issue of some sort.
Its a pretty excellent match judging by some brushed onto a card.
From experience with the previous stuff adding hardener doesn't change the shade so I should be good to go and worst case, I now have enough paint to blow a single coat over the rest of the car.
Shame that they're the only place I can get nisocoat 2 from semi locally as they're rude as hell. No apology at all for having me make 3 trips there and drag the bonnet half way across Wales but I guess the two litres of free paint was a concession.
I went to another paint place and even though they couldn't do a 1k for me their senior colour matching guy spent about 20 mins going through HMG colour box whites both indoors and outdoors with bonnet and we settled on hmg 0207 and it's a pretty much exact match, better than any of the colour match aerosols and touch up pens I've previously had.
Went back to the place which sells hmg paint and they mixed up 2 litres of this paint manually for no charge. They reckon the machine has an issue of some sort.
Its a pretty excellent match judging by some brushed onto a card.
From experience with the previous stuff adding hardener doesn't change the shade so I should be good to go and worst case, I now have enough paint to blow a single coat over the rest of the car.
Shame that they're the only place I can get nisocoat 2 from semi locally as they're rude as hell. No apology at all for having me make 3 trips there and drag the bonnet half way across Wales but I guess the two litres of free paint was a concession.
When i was a young boatbuilder i worked with a bloke who used to do all the Gel coat repairs for Thames marine. he was an artist at it & could match any colour anywhere. He had a battered suitcase full of pigment pots & did it on the fly.
Years later i did a gelcoat repair on a yacht & 30 years down the line it still grins at me sticking out like a sore thumb.
Yet the last big one i did on a Prout catamaran turned out to be the most perfect match ever, just straight white gel out of a barrel.
It is an art.
Years later i did a gelcoat repair on a yacht & 30 years down the line it still grins at me sticking out like a sore thumb.
Yet the last big one i did on a Prout catamaran turned out to be the most perfect match ever, just straight white gel out of a barrel.
It is an art.
