Opinions sought please

[cumbriasteve]

Got dragged screaming and crying on a coach trip to York Xmas fair yesterday, the coach was impressive, one of those new space age monster things, where you climb a few stairs to the passenger level.

Full hostess service, coffee, teas etc.

When I was getting off I noticed the front offside passengers had a nice little shelf to put their hot drinks on, and about a metre below the shelf was the drivers head, no glass partition or anything else.

So my mind kicked in with the vision of the coach going down the motorway at 60mph and a cup of scalding tea falls over the driver, the outcome could be what nightmares are made of.

Even a child dropping over a toy, right onto the driver.

When I mentioned it to my mate who was with us, he saw what my thoughts were but felt it was no big deal.

So what do you think?

I am asking because I can't believe I am the only one who can see the danger and can't understand how the design has been allowed....or am I over thinking it after all?

Did get into the railway museum, some great exhibits, the massive steam trains we supplied to China in the 1930's were just gigantic.

 

[Parm]

Seems like an entirely sensible observation that you make, but in these days of elf n (not so) saf tea, some jumped up college kid who doesn't have any experience and cant see further than his nose will be calling for all coach travel to be banned at the first accident or incident.

What's happened to good old fashioned commen sense and using your eyes and brain to judge a situation!!!!

 

[CRB]

Write to the coach operator pointing out the possibility of the an accident being primarily caused by some biddys' cocoa burning the driver.

I would certainly do something, rather than nothing.

 

[SmartWerks]

Look after yourself, what difference does it make to you? I suppose you check your neighbours have car insurance and measure there tyre treads. I bet the council and crimestoppers are on your friends and family plan!

 

[CRB]

Look after yourself, what difference does it make to you? I suppose you check your neighbours have car insurance and measure there tyre treads. I bet the council and crimestoppers are on your friends and family plan!

I sincerely hope it is not your nanna on the receiving end of a cocoa induced tragedy.

 

[SmartWerks]

My grandmothers are long gone, and we're never that old to be part of the coach fraternity!

cocoa is nothing compared to a angry wasp attacking me whilst driving a tanker especially me being allergic to them. At least it wore a hi viz with audio warning

 

[Parm]

T

Look after yourself, what difference does it make to you? I suppose you check your neighbours have car insurance and measure there tyre treads. I bet the council and crimestoppers are on your friends and family plan!

That is not the right attitude!!!

 

[MattF]

Look after yourself, what difference does it make to you? I suppose you check your neighbours have car insurance and measure there tyre treads. I bet the council and crimestoppers are on your friends and family plan!

Apathy would seem a poor approach. People seem overly obsessed with doing nothing as it is, these days, when doing something costs nothing more than a little time and consideration. Accidents happen, but if something is preventable it's silliness not to try.

I'd mention it even if only for your own peace of mind Steve.

 

[cumbriasteve]

Look after yourself, what difference does it make to you? I suppose you check your neighbours have car insurance and measure there tyre treads. I bet the council and crimestoppers are on your friends and family plan!

I will do you a deal, you try not to guess who is on my friends and family plan and I will try very hard not to think you are a smartarse.

 

[brightspark]

I will do you a deal, you try not to guess who is on my friends and family plan and I will try very hard not to think you are a smartarse.

GO ON u tell im thats it

 

[normspanners]

coach going down the motorway at 60mph and a cup of scalding tea falls over the driver

Coaches doing 60---------- why was there a 40mph limit at the time??
The tea would probably ruin the sat nav he was setting, cause him to misspell the text he was writing, scratch the cd he was changing when it hit the floor under the brake pedal, and more than anything totally f**k the Star crossword by soaking the paper. It might even upset his concentration on driving , having to change his shirt whilst steering with his knees.

Ha reminds of the trucker cooking and eating his spaghetti on toast on the a55

I think it is a very sensible observation and should be brought to the attention of the bus co.

 

[fenman]

I will do you a deal, you try not to guess who is on my friends and family plan and I will try very hard not to think you are a smartarse.

You did ask Opinions sought please

 

[cumbriasteve]

You did ask Opinions sought please

Opinions on a safety issue yes, not a personal judgement of the type of person I am, there is a fair amount of difference.

 

[Wallace]

Perhaps the coach builder offers the option of driver screening at added cost the operator deems unnecessary.

 

[cumbriasteve]

Perhaps the coach builder offers the option of driver screening at added cost the operator deems unnecessary.

No idea mate but it just looked so wrong, we were going down the road at a fair whack and 3ft above the drivers head a woman was pouring hot tea into a cup which was balanced on a strip of plastic about 9" wide.

 

[Wozzaaah]

Keep personal digs off here please, it's not the way we do things.

 

[cumbriasteve]

Keep personal digs off here please, it's not the way we do things.

I Know and I am sure you are aware in well over 3000 posts I have always stuck firmly to the rules and done nothing other than be an active helpful member of the boards.

I am not here though for a new member to 'have a go' for no reason, I will always defend myself even at the cost of any sanctions imposed.

 

[normspanners]

The incident would need several inputs, a incident happening in front of the bus causing him to brake and swerve at the same time on roads that could have ice or snow or the bus has a font blow out or any mechanical fault or yes even an angry wasp dive bombing and the driver need his max concentration, last thing he would need is a cup, followed by a teapot of scalding water poured over him and by the sound of it, the hostess herself landing on his lap ! (but we won't go into that )
You might have only one, split chance, at righting a wrong move, by anyone, and you need in that situation, every bullet in your arsenal.

If you ever watch air crash investigation it is very rarely one action that causes a crash it is normally several all happening incredibly together.
The very nature of an accident.
But in the air you normally have a warning of an event, have two 'drivers' and there isnt as much traffic, but any hint of a problem, and you ALL have to sit down and strap in.
Also you cant get to the driver with anything !!
But on the roads, things happen in a split second, anything, that can help, has to be a bonus.