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Just surprising Taitsie that Blue Bosch is made in China. I knew they had factories in Turkey and Poland. I know Bosch will say it`s just as good. A mate who is upper management in that company says they can`t actually afford to make much in Germany at all.
Ah well don`t look a gift horse in the mouth..
Alex
Ah well don`t look a gift horse in the mouth..
Alex
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Hi Alex
I,m in the motor trade and at the moment the chinese are trying to flood the market with cheap replacement parts ie brand new alternators and starters for about £25-35 each.
They look good but are full of cheap components The list of stuff they are replicating is vast -wheel bearings ,water pumps, most of the alloy wheels being sold are brought in by the container load.
Andrew
I,m in the motor trade and at the moment the chinese are trying to flood the market with cheap replacement parts ie brand new alternators and starters for about £25-35 each.
They look good but are full of cheap components The list of stuff they are replicating is vast -wheel bearings ,water pumps, most of the alloy wheels being sold are brought in by the container load.
Andrew
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I think there's a distinction between Western firms like Bosch making stuff in China and small upstart Chinese firms. The former should still make their stuff to their normal standards but with lower overheads and therefore cheaper. I can't see big name firms risking their reputations.
One concern I have is that Chinese financial institutions are moving into the UK, for example Northern Wok.
One concern I have is that Chinese financial institutions are moving into the UK, for example Northern Wok.
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the last couple of bosch powertools i have bought havent been that good, motors tend to burn out. so it looks like ill be sticking with metabo from now on, they certainly seem to take far more abuse than the bosch ones.
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I should think its a mixture of the two. they have to keep there German based factories making something. Firstly to keep the peace and secondly to maintain the 'Bosch is a German firm' myth. But ill bet a lot of the larger more expensive to ship, but easier to make (ie: plastic or metal bodies) are made in China.
Most European manufacturers are just importers really these days, there are certainly very few that I deal with.
The main problem that I find with China (from a work point of view) is spontaneous parts substitution, it requires diligent quality control by the Importer / Manufacturer.
The main problem that I find with China (from a work point of view) is spontaneous parts substitution, it requires diligent quality control by the Importer / Manufacturer.
Listen Hitch I`ll look into that. Good one Roger. You know what? It doesn`t feel good that tool. Just handling it ....the switch feels crap and the motor has that worn bearing sound that the cheapos have. The stuff I got from Aldi which has a Made In Germany on it actually feels better.
Time will tell......
Alex
Time will tell......
Alex
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Bump this is something you hear all the time, parts subsitution. Its this that the chinese shafted Mattel with (probaly Mattel's fault for not checking everything). A lot depends on how things are done, if work is sub contracted to firms in china, which almost all is now days, you stand a good chance of getting a problem. But if its a factory set up by the manufacturer, staffed by the manufacturer then you get far less trouble, very similar to what Nissan did in sunderland. If they turn out rubbish its the manufaturers own fault for not finding skilled staff
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Hmmm, I wonder what their motive is for participating in European banks.
The Chinese banking system is considered the weak spot in the development of the Chinese economy by many economists.
Do they want to learn the tricks of the trade by having a position in the drivers' seat or is their motive something else....
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Alex this is a Bosch blue, its part of there industrial range, its ment for people like me to use it constantly for an hour at a time continious use. If you think the build quality is a little poor, what is there green stuff like now (the DIY range) worse than the B&Q own range?
out of interest what did it cost you in money terms, bottom of the range Metabo is around 45-50 quid for a basic industrial grinder
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Register it online, at the BOSCH website, and i believe they give you an extra 2 years warranty.
Cant be that bad if they do that
I don't doubt that it is Hitch but I always thought that Bosch=German=top quality, end of story
. I can't imagine a company with the worldwide reputation that Bosch have jeopardising said reputation by outsourscing, they must have a lot of faith in their non-German manufacturing facilities to still offer a 3 year warranty. It's just another example of a large company going down the money-saving route.
It `was 50 quid Darren. It`s not expensive though is it?. By the time you cost the free dia disc gaurd and packing etc. Do they go more expensive for a 115mm grinder?
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last one i bought alex was over a 100 quid, admittedly that was a 125mm metabo 1400watt with variable speed, but 50 quid is about right for what you would considered a quality workshop grinder
