Hi everyone I have just noticed this section of the forum so I have never posted here before. I last sprayed a car 40 yrs ago at that time it was all cellulose and 2 pack clear over base was just starting to be used which to be quite honest was part of the reason I never got involved again nasty breathing problems and extremely toxic and very expensive safety equipment needed and essential. I now understand that water based paints are being used, what is it like for a non pro like myself to get a good finish and are there any special requirements needed for use please bear in mind I would be using my one and half car garage cum workshop with no spray booth or extraction. When I last used cellulose I could lay on a finish like glass but a long time ago. What makes me ask is while having a clear up the other day I came across 2 guns they are devilbiss JGA guns one with as small pot which was brand new unused until I used for a day about 7 years ago to put wood preserver on my fencing and the other which has never been used still in polythene these were expensive and top of the range in my day I don't know about now but are they usable for this water based paint and how is it for drying as I obviously do not have an oven at home is it forgiving paint that you can play about with like cellulose was. Any information appreciated Thanks Chris
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dunno bout waterbased ive not tried it not likely to niether/ i have a few jga guns there the buisness had mine 25 years they were 80 quid then .i generaly spray 2k etch primer. and enamels and 2k finish celly s old hat 
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the water based is only base coat you will still need 2k or (celly laquer) if you can get it
and water based takes longer to dry.
and water based takes longer to dry.
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From what I understand water based is a pig and pretty expensive and as has already been said it's only the base, clear is still 2k or celly.
I know a guy that still uses celly all the time when he can, but I mostly go for 2k etch primer, 1k base and ready to use clear stuff made by ICI.
Best bet is go to your local refinishing supplier and have a chat about what you are doing they are usually quite helpful.
Glenn
I know a guy that still uses celly all the time when he can, but I mostly go for 2k etch primer, 1k base and ready to use clear stuff made by ICI.
Best bet is go to your local refinishing supplier and have a chat about what you are doing they are usually quite helpful.
Glenn
I have used water-based with a 1K clear lacquer (U-Pol). It came out pretty well both in solid and metallic colours.
I have no drying equipment but it has worked well for me sprayed in the garage on a fairly warm, dry day. It does take a while to dry but that caused me no problems.
I used a Devilbiss Finishline (cheapie) gravity-fed gun and I'm very much an amateur.
I do find it quite pleasant spraying water-based paint compared to any other stuff as far as breathing goes.
I have no drying equipment but it has worked well for me sprayed in the garage on a fairly warm, dry day. It does take a while to dry but that caused me no problems.
I used a Devilbiss Finishline (cheapie) gravity-fed gun and I'm very much an amateur.
I do find it quite pleasant spraying water-based paint compared to any other stuff as far as breathing goes.
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The local chips away man uses water based paint he mixes in his van and a little infra red heater to waft over it to set it off. I think the lacquer he used was acrylic and he dried that with a hot air gun held at a distance. It was a bike fairing he was repairing and he was only there about 45 minutes so it doesn't take that long to go off.
The reason I harp on about breathing is I am a reformed 60-80 a day smoker who for my sins have been confirmed with Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease which in my day was emphysema but I believe that it is not PC to call it that anymore, any way I'm not moaning I enjoyed it at the time Chris
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you need a full face air fed mask , gloves , paper suit etc
they will put more load on the compressor too . if you have breathing problems id stay away
what colour and what sort car etc ? any reason you wont use celly if you know how to use it well? kinda makes sense to stick with what you have
they will put more load on the compressor too . if you have breathing problems id stay away
what colour and what sort car etc ? any reason you wont use celly if you know how to use it well? kinda makes sense to stick with what you have
Have you seen my compressor chris
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hmmm yeah i get what your saying , although 2k doesnt do the job for you
not that id advise you to , but lots of people would do single panels in 2k with a decent cartidge mask and a well vented place ....
not that id advise you to , but lots of people would do single panels in 2k with a decent cartidge mask and a well vented place ....
