New drill needed

[pedrobedro]

Corded SDS will handle core drills if you need to use them as well.

 

[waldershelf]

I remember years ago using a conventional mains hammer drill to mount some gear to an old concrete pumphouse wall, 20 minutes and 3 x 1/4inch bits later still didn't have a single hole drilled. I borrowed a Bosch 36v SDS drill from another engineering department and the job was done in no time. The difference between a conventional drill and masonry bits to an SDS drill was incredible, I went out and bought an SDS drill.

 

[Mick Annick]

Thanks all, I’ve ordered a Makita 800w SDS plus

 

[Munkul]

since getting an 18v makita SDS DHR242Z, the corded one has never... and I mean NEVER... been out of the box.

Usually drilling 12-18mm holes, have drilled a few 24mm as well... I wouldn't use it for core drilling though.

The hammer action direct on SDS is much much more effective than a combi drill with chuck.

 

[Mick Annick]

since getting an 18v makita SDS DHR242Z, the corded one has never... and I mean NEVER... been out of the box.

Usually drilling 12-18mm holes, have drilled a few 24mm as well... I wouldn't use it for core drilling though.

The hammer action direct on SDS is much much more effective than a combi drill with chuck.

If funds allow I may buy another battery drill at some point, my Dewalt has had very little use but having to change batteries on every 10mm hole in stone is driving me nuts.

I agree about the SDS action being more effective - used my mates drill on a job last week and was quite surprised at the difference.

 

[Craig-SM]

I replaced my Ryobi cordless with a Milwaukee M18 Gen 3 hammer drill and my corded Bosch SDS with a Milwaukee M18 CHPX SDS drill. I found the Gen 3 hammer drill does 95% of my needs for drilling and just as quick as the Bosch SDS up to 10mm bits and being so compact much more versatile too.
The big CHPX SDS drill is totally overkill. It was loaned to the gas fitter who drained both batteries on his 36v Bosch SDS trying to get a core drill through the neighbours wall to fit the flue for their new boiler. It used one bar on a 9ah battery to make the hole where he’d barely got an inch into to the brickwork. When he brought it back round he’d already found the model on his phone and wanted to confirm it was the same before ordering. It is an expensive drill to have as back up for me for what little use it gets but reassuring too to know if it needs to come out then it will surely do the job.

 

[armalites]

Screwfix have a special offer on the Dewalt SDS at the moment, £199.99 with 2 4ah batteries but you get the option to buy an impact driver for half price so £249.99 gets you a SDS drill,2 batteries,charger and an impact driver.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-d...on-xr-brushless-cordless-sds-plus-drill/675fj

 

[chris pruteanu]

Anything Hilti or Milwaukee heavy duty will do, there are good offerings from Makita, Bosch, Dewalt or Hitachi Koki as well, over 300 quid is just a matter of color preference ! Li-Ion batteries are very good and i would suggest you get anything over 5-6 Ah for decent long lasting drill time. Also roto stop is a must to be able to do light chiseling as well !

 

[sg66]

I used my poor little milwaukee m12 sds to drill 4 22mm holes when I replaced my gates, drilled a couple of smaller holes first or it wouldn't have stood a chance but it's tiny and not ment for anything that size did it with 1 5a battery, which sounds big but like the drill is tiny.

Corded stuff is much cheaper but the versatility and convenience of battery gear is great.

As much of it is about what battery system you want to buy into.

 

[Mick Annick]

Is it worth buying an adapter for my current drill DC925 XRP? Dewalt do one to take 20v batteries, or am I flogging a dead horse? Although old it’s had little use.

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

Is it worth buying an adapter for my current drill DC925 XRP? Dewalt do one to take 20v batteries, or am I flogging a dead horse? Although old it’s had little use.

Yes.
I use a old nicad skil saw tracksaw tigersaw and drill on lions with an adapter. Still current

 

[armalites]

Is it worth buying an adapter for my current drill DC925 XRP? Dewalt do one to take 20v batteries, or am I flogging a dead horse? Although old it’s had little use.

It's certainly worth a go especially if you are thinking about buying newer Dewalt kit. Some of those old Dewalt drill were good work horses so a 4-5ah Li-Ion would make a difference.

One thing to be aware of is 20V is a USA thing. The batteries are the same as the ones we call 18V, in the USA they call them 20Vmax which if you check some 18V they show as almost 20v hence the name. They do the same with 10.8V they call them 12V max.

Dewalt used to do a kit with a couple of batteries and an adapter, more money than the generic ones but probably includes some sort of protection. There are some Youtube videos reviewing them

I remember when I bought my first Ni-Cad Dewalt kit, new batteries were about £90 and that was 20+ years a go. 5ah batteries can be bought for £50 now

 

[Mick Annick]

It's certainly worth a go especially if you are thinking about buying newer Dewalt kit. Some of those old Dewalt drill were good work horses so a 4-5ah Li-Ion would make a difference.

One thing to be aware of is 20V is a USA thing. The batteries are the same as the ones we call 18V, in the USA they call them 20Vmax which if you check some 18V they show as almost 20v hence the name. They do the same with 10.8V they call them 12V max.

Dewalt used to do a kit with a couple of batteries and an adapter, more money than the generic ones but probably includes some sort of protection. There are some Youtube videos reviewing them

I remember when I bought my first Ni-Cad Dewalt kit, new batteries were about £90 and that was 20+ years a go. 5ah batteries can be bought for £50 now

Thanks, looking at back I did end up on Dewalt’s US site, have to careful over here as Google sends you all over the place if you use English - most of my search results come from Australia

 

[Yamhon]

Thanks, looking at back I did end up on Dewalt’s US site, have to careful over here as Google sends you all over the place if you use English - most of my search results come from Australia

Some search engines let you pick a country on a drop down menu where it tries to prioritise search results from that country. DuckDuckGo has that, and I find it handy when I'm trying to find a product for sale so I don't get swapped with USA websites that don't ship to UK.

 

[Mick Annick]

It's certainly worth a go especially if you are thinking about buying newer Dewalt kit. Some of those old Dewalt drill were good work horses so a 4-5ah Li-Ion would make a difference.

One thing to be aware of is 20V is a USA thing. The batteries are the same as the ones we call 18V, in the USA they call them 20Vmax which if you check some 18V they show as almost 20v hence the name. They do the same with 10.8V they call them 12V max.

Dewalt used to do a kit with a couple of batteries and an adapter, more money than the generic ones but probably includes some sort of protection. There are some Youtube videos reviewing them

I remember when I bought my first Ni-Cad Dewalt kit, new batteries were about £90 and that was 20+ years a go. 5ah batteries can be bought for £50 now

Amazon France have the adapter, but which batteries and charger - there are so many, any advice gratefully received...

 

[Mick Annick]

Before I hit the buy button one last question, and apologies if I’m being thick, but France seems only to have 125mm grinders (I’m might as well get some use out of the batteries) presumably there’s no reason why I can’t use 115mm discs - just the guard will be a little oversize?

 

[Craig-SM]

Usually the same grinder as the 115mm just a guard to suit. You may be able to obtain the 115mm guard from the UK and have it sent across.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/312621217646

As it sent a keyed clamp you could also just use one from old grinder

 

[armalites]

Before I hit the buy button one last question, and apologies if I’m being thick, but France seems only to have 125mm grinders (I’m might as well get some use out of the batteries) presumably there’s no reason why I can’t use 115mm discs - just the guard will be a little oversize?

The battery grinders all seem to show as 5" instead of the more traditional 4.5" so no issues. I've never thought about it on mine and I only use 115 discs in mine.Something to be aware of is there are two versions, one is brushed and one brushless. DCG412N brushed,DCG405N brushless. I have the brushless one and it's very nice.I would happily buy the brushed one just because of the trigger switch.

With regards to batteries, I would just get what you can get the best deal on. The 4ah and 5ah are the same size and similar if not identical weight. There are few UK site that do deals with batteries and a charger. From memory the chargers ending with a 5 are the faster ones so a DCB115 is faster than a DCB113 and there isn't a cost saving so get the faster one. You can get the 5ah down to around £50 if buying as a deal. DCB118 is more expensive as it does Flexvolt too.

You will surprised what a difference a modern battery makes, my lad has a load of Ryobi kit, the batteries are expensive so he bought a Dewalt-Ryobi adapter. He cuts up pallets to make kindling and if he runs with one of my 5ah Dewalts he can do more time than he can with 5-6 of his Ryobi batteries. They are lower capacity but they still don't compare equally.

 

[armalites]

The best bit about this thread is in checking the model numbers I've just discovered Dewalt do an 18v polisher.