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Hi everyone everyone as announced in the Today I acquired thread, I've got an USED Makita clone tools set for about 70 euros
that's the picture from eBay.
I'd start with the impact because there is more to talk about
The generic 30 to 40 euro Makita clone with double 1/4"+1/2" drive anvil.
So data sticker says LLD XR-68VF brushless wrench
0-3200 RPM 0-2800RPM
600Nm pretty optimistic
It really has only 2 speed forward, half power and full power which you can switch by pressing the red button.
And control by the trigger switch which again it's not continuously variable but usable.
In reverse it has 2 settings full power continuously spinning, full power auto stop after 1 second free spinning.
Trigger has 3 position, 0 Low High and it's enough easy to service, no carbon contact sliding strip, but 2 copper tracks and springy contacts.
Why do I know that?
Because I spent 2 ours trying to get the thing run.
Plastics have a lot of burrs and molding imperfections on both the shells and most importantly the switch and internal components.
It was impossible to select the rotation direction because the selector wasn't able to reach the reverse position.
So took the utility knife and cut through plastics to make it work.
Done that on the housings, and the switch internal components, my apologies but I've forgot to shoot some photos of the process.
Anyways on yesterday I've tried to put an M12 Bolt in the vice and attempted to torque it to 200Nm with the torque wrench, managed to reach only 120Nm, because I was literally turning the bench without getting the wrench to click.
Used just a normal socket and the impact succeed to loosen it up no problems.
Tried to thighten for few seconds really, and it reached about 100Nm.
Then I've insisted till the nut failed and started to spin on the vice jaw completely rounding up (nut in the vice, spinning the screw with the gun).
Then I've tested it in the field, this means loosening up a wheel nut on my brother-in-law fiat 600 as my Punto was parked too far and I know they are torqued at only 96Nm.
Anyways it worked, and loosened it up in maybe 3 seconds
I don't know how much thigh it was but I can assume enough because it has been thighten using a pipe and jumping on it.
Now the grinder, this one... I have to be honest with you surprised me.
It's small light weight feels like a toy (I'm used to use 1700W 125mm grinders).
It looks very Makita like to the eyes but obviously with no brand on it and the distinctive clone feature of all of them.
So no cooling vent covers and flimsy accessories like handle and guard which is not toolless and very thin but it does its job
Similar control panel as the impact.
So battery level, and 4 speeds selectable using the yellow button while the grinder is turned on.
Data sticker says
LLD lithium battery angle grinder
125mm 9000 RPM
Max torque 20-30Nm which may be close because it's always a brushless DC motor with a gear reduction (pinion and bevel gear )
I've tested it by modifying a socket for a job.
I didn't stalled it, not even tried, I've just used it normally like a corded one.
It didn't seem to me it was under stress and worked fine both cutting and grinding.
Off course it was a quick job but I felt no noticeable lack of power.
I've put some grease in the gearbox and I'll disassemble it to open up the cooling ports by cutting the excessive plastic burrs from the molding
those sockets were included with the set, they feel cheap but they are heavy compared to normal sockets but they still are not comparable to real impact ones
18-19-21-22mm
A set of bits I didn't even touched, two 6Ah batteries, again used just to see if they worked but not even charged.
They are surely not 6Ah.
Charger same as above.
And a cordless 10mm impact drill, not even brushless I've gifted all these things to my brother as he will use them much more than me.
In the pictures you can see I'm using 4Ah Parkside batteries and an adapter.
Honestly this setup works fine, I'm curious to see if genuine Makita 6Ah batteries would make any difference but I think I might get another adapter and few other Lidl batteries as it's convenient and cost effective for my needs .
I might buy the 150Nm impact drill clone too.
So in conclusion, the grinder is good for me.
As said up above I think it's worth to try.
The impact yes it's cheap and it's good enough for my needs right now but I don't know it didn't completely convinced me.
I'll update the thread in the long run
I'd start with the impact because there is more to talk about
The generic 30 to 40 euro Makita clone with double 1/4"+1/2" drive anvil.
So data sticker says LLD XR-68VF brushless wrench
0-3200 RPM 0-2800RPM
600Nm pretty optimistic
It really has only 2 speed forward, half power and full power which you can switch by pressing the red button.
And control by the trigger switch which again it's not continuously variable but usable.
In reverse it has 2 settings full power continuously spinning, full power auto stop after 1 second free spinning.
Trigger has 3 position, 0 Low High and it's enough easy to service, no carbon contact sliding strip, but 2 copper tracks and springy contacts.
Why do I know that?
Because I spent 2 ours trying to get the thing run.
Plastics have a lot of burrs and molding imperfections on both the shells and most importantly the switch and internal components.
It was impossible to select the rotation direction because the selector wasn't able to reach the reverse position.
So took the utility knife and cut through plastics to make it work.
Done that on the housings, and the switch internal components, my apologies but I've forgot to shoot some photos of the process.
Anyways on yesterday I've tried to put an M12 Bolt in the vice and attempted to torque it to 200Nm with the torque wrench, managed to reach only 120Nm, because I was literally turning the bench without getting the wrench to click.
Used just a normal socket and the impact succeed to loosen it up no problems.
Tried to thighten for few seconds really, and it reached about 100Nm.
Then I've insisted till the nut failed and started to spin on the vice jaw completely rounding up (nut in the vice, spinning the screw with the gun).
Then I've tested it in the field, this means loosening up a wheel nut on my brother-in-law fiat 600 as my Punto was parked too far and I know they are torqued at only 96Nm.
Anyways it worked, and loosened it up in maybe 3 seconds
I don't know how much thigh it was but I can assume enough because it has been thighten using a pipe and jumping on it.
Now the grinder, this one... I have to be honest with you surprised me.
It's small light weight feels like a toy (I'm used to use 1700W 125mm grinders).
It looks very Makita like to the eyes but obviously with no brand on it and the distinctive clone feature of all of them.
So no cooling vent covers and flimsy accessories like handle and guard which is not toolless and very thin but it does its job
Similar control panel as the impact.
So battery level, and 4 speeds selectable using the yellow button while the grinder is turned on.
Data sticker says
LLD lithium battery angle grinder
125mm 9000 RPM
Max torque 20-30Nm which may be close because it's always a brushless DC motor with a gear reduction (pinion and bevel gear )
I've tested it by modifying a socket for a job.
I didn't stalled it, not even tried, I've just used it normally like a corded one.
It didn't seem to me it was under stress and worked fine both cutting and grinding.
Off course it was a quick job but I felt no noticeable lack of power.
I've put some grease in the gearbox and I'll disassemble it to open up the cooling ports by cutting the excessive plastic burrs from the molding
18-19-21-22mm
A set of bits I didn't even touched, two 6Ah batteries, again used just to see if they worked but not even charged.
They are surely not 6Ah.
Charger same as above.
And a cordless 10mm impact drill, not even brushless I've gifted all these things to my brother as he will use them much more than me.
In the pictures you can see I'm using 4Ah Parkside batteries and an adapter.
Honestly this setup works fine, I'm curious to see if genuine Makita 6Ah batteries would make any difference but I think I might get another adapter and few other Lidl batteries as it's convenient and cost effective for my needs .
I might buy the 150Nm impact drill clone too.
So in conclusion, the grinder is good for me.
As said up above I think it's worth to try.
The impact yes it's cheap and it's good enough for my needs right now but I don't know it didn't completely convinced me.
I'll update the thread in the long run