How Does Your Garden Grow?

[Onoff]

Thread title shamelessly nicked off another forum where I'm a member!

Following on from my intent to grow some veg and the comments from @DAPPH etc.


Took the small trampoline down to make a bit of space and decide where the veg patch is going.

The hedge faces SW. Beam trench will come out from the hedge at 90 degrees. Some quite thick tufts and a big patch of ivy to the lhs of the barrow.

A few bits left over!

 

[addjunkie]

Once your ready research nodig gardening, raised beds and find local alpaca owners for fertilizer!

 

[brightspark]

plenty of hoss or cow sh...yte rotovated in

 

[Onoff]

"Beam trench"

 

[pedrobedro]

plenty of hoss or cow sh...yte rotovated in

Don't use cow and horse muck unless they are reared organically. Broad leaf aminopyralid weedkiller in the food chain causes growth defects in the new plants. That looks like virgin ground so I wouldn't bother with any raised beds they are just for people too idle to bend their backs.

 

[DanZac]

Getting rid of the grass will be your biggest hurdle. Best bet is to just slice it off in lumps with a sharp spade and then pile it up somewhere to rot down.
Once the turfs off the world's your oyster. It's hard work to get it productive to start with, but so worth it when your tucking in to your own Veg.

I started with this 10 years ago.

And now it looks like this (except with less stuff growing at this time of year)

 

[Onoff]

BiL has a mini digger!

 

[DanZac]

BiL has a mini digger!

I wish I'd had one when I did mine, it would have saved many hours with the mattock, fork and spade.

Little and often is the key though. Someone said to me the other day "You don't eat all the veg in one go, so likewise you don't have to dig it all in one go either" which I thought quite a good saying.

 

[slim_boy_fat]

they are just for people too idle to bend their backs.

Or unable to.....

 

[Onoff]

Little and often is the key though.

I keep saying that to SWMBO...

 

[Onoff]

OK I've been recommended these runner bean seeds by a family member. Specifically the Czar variety:

Special Runner Bean vegetable seeds to buy from The Real Seed Catalogue UK

Runner beans will produce in cooler weather than French beans, and crop over a really long period. Selected new varieties for you to grow at home.

www.realseeds.co.uk

 

[DanZac]

Never tried that particular variety of bean.
But I normally use https://www.seedparade.co.uk/
for my seeds. No connection, but good value, prompt service and I've never had any duff seeds from them.

 

[bigegg]

Those aren't bits "left over". Those are the start of a polytunnel...

 

[Onoff]

Those aren't bits "left over". Those are the start of a polytunnel...

There was funnily enough a similar trampoline frame left outside a travellers site near me a while back. I though about grabbing it but didn't

 

[bigegg]

There was funnily enough a similar trampoline frame left outside a travellers site near me a while back. I though about grabbing it but didn't

I put an advert on the local farcebutt group, and got 6 complete frames, free, within 24hrs.

 

[Onoff]

Long term for the sunny corner of the garden is a garden room shaped to make most use of the Sun. The veg page will go down slope of this.

I'm thinking if I'm to have this veg patch then it needs to be far away enough from the hedge that I can drive the mower down. Furthermore, I'm thinking future services to the shed. Should I be looking to maybe put a length of say 300mm dia duct that I can get soil pipes and other services in? Especially if the bean trench will cross it.

Or I plan the garden room now, trench the length of the veg patch and lay a length of soil and some ducts that power and water can go in later? I'll put some sizes up later.

 

[brightspark]

Getting rid of the grass will be your biggest hurdle. Best bet is to just slice it off in lumps with a sharp spade and then pile it up somewhere to rot down.
Once the turfs off the world's your oyster. It's hard work to get it productive to start with, but so worth it when your tucking in to your own Veg.

I started with this 10 years ago.
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And now it looks like this (except with less stuff growing at this time of year)
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spray it with gallup or roundup 1st after a few weeks can be turned over and planted instantly. will kill all the wicking grass roots dockers and anything else

 

[Blobber]

spray it with gallup or roundup 1st after a few weeks can be turned over and planted instantly. will kill all the wicking grass roots dockers and anything else

Whats the point of growing your own veg in ground smothered with chemicals?

 

[brightspark]

Whats the point of growing your own veg in ground smothered with chemicals?

its inert as it touches the soil and thats why you fertilise with sh....it

 

[gaz1]

also no dig option

tried the dig out myself was always turning the soil over just to get weeds out