How can I replicate this panel patch

[paulmitchell1984]

Firstly sorry if this is in wrong section.

I'm looking to replicate the panel patch in the images.

I have a box folder at home but not sure I could fold so tightly and have access to a 50t press at work.

How would you guys go about doing it?

 

[Tinbasherdan]

Firstly sorry if this is in wrong section.

I'm looking to replicate the panel patch in the images.

I have a box folder at home but not sure I could fold so tightly and have access to a 50t press at work.

How would you guys go about doing it?

Most of that could be formed on the box and pan folder, I’d use a bead roller to put that swags line in though

 

[Matchless]

E28

 

[Matchless]

it would be easier to fold if you did not need the last swage,

 

[paulmitchell1984]

Yes e28. I will need the last part I think there's not much left of it.

 

[paulmitchell1984]

This is the offending wing...

 

[Olderisbetter]

If you have not seen Tony on retrorides his BMW builds are amazing
https://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/119596
https://www.tonybmw.co.uk

 

[Matchless]

I do like E28's, sold my last one when I retired, manual 520i a mate has it now and loves it, he also has a LHD 2002 I sold him 20+ years ago, also sold a M535i project just before I finished, problem was I had a 14,000 square foot building that was too large business in the death, so I filled the first floor with projects, in the year before I retired I sold he two E28's, an 850csi running but high mileage and needed love, my last E32 750i that had been laid up due to fuel consumption, also needed a bit of love, an E23 732i again needing love, a couple of E9's needing full restoration, and many more,

 

[Matchless]

if you could find a pattern wing cheap you could cut off the bottom part and use it, then make a repair patch at your leisure and sell on the repaired pattern part,

 

[gaz1]

you can do most of that in a vice and 5mm flat steel to get your shape but you need to prestart the fold

 

[MoreWellie]

if you have a big enough vice one of these would help https://www.axminster.co.uk/adjustable-vice-jaw-benders-ax20496

you just need space to get enough metal inside the vice to be able to do the bends closest to the large flat area

Edit: I wouldn't do a bend in one but start several of the bends in the same area off and gradually work towards 90 degrees as some of them look a bit close together to finish in the bender

 

[paulmitchell1984]

Got a couple of vices so that wouldn't be an issue.. Had a play with the box folder tonight on some thin sheet think it's under 1mm

For a 1st quick bash I didnt think it was bad..

 

[chris pruteanu]

You're close ! I would have done it in 2 parts and just join it in the middle somewhere... Nice job !

 

[zeppelin builder]

my brothers way of doing floorpans and bootfloor swages with a normal folder "edwards " was to unbolt the angle part on the front of the moving beam and draw the sheet through flipping over after every fold using a bit box or similar to set the pitch distance on the previous fold , you could get most small box sides folded over at the end of the beam and get the last fold at least started
then finish it up aganst a stake with a bfh
im sure most of it could be made on a basic folder, or indeed a big vice hammer and lots of imagination
box and pan is a luxury

 

[MoreWellie]

if anything your folds look a bit too sharp

use a couple of pieces of angle in the vice to hold the sheet and you can round off the edge slightly to get a smoother roll that would match the original panel better

 

[Screwdriver]

If it was me, I'd make a simple form tool for the press. Copy the existing swage in mild steel, just file the positive to match the inside dimensions and a simple channel (two strips of suitably sized flat bar on a plate) for the top tool. Just dress the edges of the channel to remove the sharp edge, leave enough clearance for the thickness of the sheet. Use lots of oil when pressing. With care I could do that on my flypress.

The rest of the folds look relatively "easy" though it's the dimensions that get you. You may need a fair few test pieces to get it bang on.

 

[colnerov]

Hi, Make one of these (credit to TonyBMW) for better depth than a vice and can be used on the bench or onsite. -

Colin

 

[Screwdriver]

Proof of concept here> https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/rotten-vw-t4.56717/page-3#post-691874

Note I didn't follow my own advice (I was young and foolish) and the press tool was both crude and badly made. Today I'd have something more like a spring fuller with a couple of lengths of straightened coil spring to align the halves.

 

[maz0]

Hi, Make one of these (credit to TonyBMW) for better depth than a vice and can be used on the bench or onsite. -

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Colin

One of the best forum threads ever made!

 

[Exuptoy]

If you have not seen Tony on retrorides his BMW builds are amazing
https://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/119596
https://www.tonybmw.co.uk

He came to my mind too once I saw the car.