How bad can this powdercoating kit be?

[julianf]

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And then the same thing for £100 less on amazon -

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I mean, £340? But i know nothing about powdercoat, and would rather spend £500 on something that worked, than £300 on something that didn't!

Thank you.

 

[skotl]

No clue about powdercoating, but both sellers are using the same image so I presume it's the same kit

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[Ross365]

I don't much like powder coating full stop. It has a fantastic ability to hide what's going on underneath it. While it's still in good condition it's extremely hard to get off, but a few mm away it can be flaking off in clumps.

 

[julianf]

Yeah, id pay money NOT to have things powdercoated. But im sick of painting the stuff i sell, and my buyers seem to think powdercoat is better than paint, so if i set up for powder, i save myself a whole load of time, and give them what they think they want.

 

[Ross365]

Yeah, id pay money NOT to have things powdercoated. But im sick of painting the stuff i sell, and my buyers seem to think powdercoat is better than paint, so if i set up for powder, i save myself a whole load of time, and give them what they think they want.

Any chance of finding someone with a really good reputation and contract it out? I suspect that getting good results is a black art and/or the outcome of putting much time and money in to getting it right.

 

[julianf]

Yeah, im off to drop some parts off tomorrow, but im never keen on outsourcing what i can (probably) do myself.

 

[Kram]

Your products are high end electronics/music bits arnt they? So rust and durability problems of powder shouldnt be a big problem.

What about Cerakote? Expensive but looks good, an option thats not powder coat that some may pay the extra for.

 

[Ross365]

The curious thing is that there's an outfit in Birmingham (used to be called City Powder Coatings?) who will do your alloys wheels for you at £20 each (even if they are pretty poor to begin with) and do a good job whereas other guys are charging at least 3 times that.

 

[julianf]

Your products are high end electronics/music bits arnt they? So rust and durability problems of powder shouldnt be a big problem.

What about Cerakote? Expensive but looks good, an option thats not powder coat that some may pay the extra for.

I'll be honest - I've given up trying to convince anyone that there's superior products to powder.

Powder is cheap and, I suspect, easy once you have the knowledge, and, in truth, whilst it's right down at the low end of the quality coatings scale, for the indoor stuff that I flog, it's probably fine.

Basically I figure if they want powder, then I'll give them powder.


(As an example, I do a business to business item, that someone else then retails to consumers - it's currently done in 2k but on their website they say it's powder as that's what their buyers think they want!)

I've suggested that the description is not entirely accurate, but they can't be bothered to educate people either, so the superior epoxy and 2k finish is listed for sale as inferior powder.

 

[Ross365]

A Million years ago, when I used to sit through "Total Quality" training sessions, the mantra that was oft repeated was "The Customer is King".

 

[julianf]

Totally. If they think powder is better, and it's (potentially) quicker and cheaper for me to do than 2k, I shouldn't try and correct them.

But really the point of this thread was not to discuss the pros and cons of powder, but for me to get advice on the specific machine.

I mean it's a generic clone. From what I can tell electronic goods (maybe) have a 2yr warranty under UK law, which (might be) enforceable with Amazon if it fails.

If it works, and earns money for 2 years, it will have more than paid for itself, so I guess the question, again, is -

How bad could it be?

(at applying powder)

 

[ukracer]

Totally. If they think powder is better, and it's (potentially) quicker and cheaper for me to do than 2k, I shouldn't try and correct them.

But really the point of this thread was not to discuss the pros and cons of powder, but for me to get advice on the specific machine.

I mean it's a generic clone. From what I can tell electronic goods (maybe) have a 2yr warranty under UK law, which (might be) enforceable with Amazon if it fails.

If it works, and earns money for 2 years, it will have more than paid for itself, so I guess the question, again, is -

How bad could it be?

(at applying powder)

Isn't @Matt-H into powder coating now. Perhaps you could ask him as he does not use @#£_& and researches what's good and what bad.

 

[JMS1972]

A Million years ago, when I used to sit through "Total Quality" training sessions, the mantra that was oft repeated was "The Customer is King".

Oh gawd TQ that was something I'd erased from my memory....

 

[8ob]

the mantra that was oft repeated was "The Customer is King".

They are all the time they sign the cheques

Bob

 

[Melvyn Best]

Just a thought, do you have a means of heating any powder coated items?

 

[gerrymoore]

When I was selling my 'sculptures' I used to just spray with a rattle can. If they wanted to use them 'outdoors' I used to get them powder coated locally for around £1 per item and charge the customer a fiver ...everyone was happy!!

 

[julianf]

Just a thought, do you have a means of heating any powder coated items?

That's the easy bit.

My stuff is small enough that I'll just knock up a small oven with some electric elements and a PID controller. That side of things doesn't worry me at all.

 

[ukracer]

Oh gawd TQ that was something I'd erased from my memory....

And me lol.

 

[ukracer]

Isn't @Matt-H into powder coating now. Perhaps you could ask him as he does not use @#£_& and researches what's good and what bad.

Wrong Matt. I was not aware we had two Matt H.
I was trying to tag @MattH

Perhaps a mod could edit it for me. Please?

 

[slim_boy_fat]

Aye, MattH was building an oven.