home made scroll former

[robin osborne]

just wanted to share my new home made scroll former. will be adding a circle former and some other shapes soon. works well but sometimes the scrolls are slightly skew quick twist with an adjustable does the trick though

 

[KemppiFrog]

Nice stuff. I like to give the end a tweek before using the scroller, as I don't like the 'non curved' end that lets the side down. Better still, grind the end to a feather before giving it the first tweek.

Coimbra is a really nice place. I live in the South for 30 yrs and enjoyed my trips up country.

 

[paulmitchell1984]

nice work, its something im wanting to do but dont know where to start so will probably end up buying the sealey set..

 

[KemppiFrog]

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nice work, its something im wanting to do but dont know where to start so will probably end up buying the sealey set..

Quite easy, bend the former from similar, or slightly thicker, strip to the scrolls needed. Then weld the former to a decent bit of angle to hold in the vice. Welding it down makes it strong enough to withstand the bending forces involved in production. This way, you can get any design you like, rather than Sealey's. Bit cheaper too

 

[paulmitchell1984]

think my issue would be how to bend it to shape to form the former, how did you go about it?

 

[Wendelspanswick]

think my issue would be how to bend it to shape to form the former, how did you go about it?

Bend a former to bend the former on?

 

[BrenM]

Weld 2 bits of say 12mm rod with a gap between, grip in the vice, use to bend the strip bit by bit. Used to be called scrolling horns.

 

[Paul G]

Weld 2 bits of say 12mm rod with a gap between, grip in the vice, use to bend the strip bit by bit. Used to be called scrolling horns.

You've just described a tucking fork. At least I think that's what the bloke called it.

 

[Paul G]

I prefer the profiled plate type. The little red one is a bought jobbie and the bigger one I cut myself.

Paul G

 

[KemppiFrog]

I prefer the profiled plate type. The little red one is a bought jobbie and the bigger one I cut myself.

Paul G
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Nice if you have a plasma.. and avoids the 'two piece' type needed if the scroll is more than 360 deg.

 

[paulmitchell1984]

I prefer the profiled plate type. The little red one is a bought jobbie and the bigger one I cut myself.

Paul G
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How does that one work iv not seen that before..forgive the ooo question..I have access to plasma cutter so could poss do this

 

[Paul G]

Once when the spiral is cut the middle is pushed up so that a 3 to 4mm edge is revealed.
The edge of the material catches on this edge as the scroll is formed.
The scroll will peak in the middle just like the former but a couple of taps will easily knock it flat.

If you look carefully you can just see that I have stitch welded the underside of the cut to stiffen it.

HTH
Paul G

 

[paulmitchell1984]

Cool may give that a whirl..what size plate is yours (thickness)

 

[Paul G]

The plates 10mm and the edge rise is 4mm

Paul G

 

[Shedendman]

Am gonna ask,but how do you draw a scroll like that so perfect?

 

[Paul G]

Am gonna ask,but how do you draw a scroll like that so perfect?

It's a lot of years ago, but when the college lecturer spoke, I listened.
Most of the others were still down the pub.


As an aside, what's that twerp in Westminster advocating ? Two year apprenticeships ?
I laugh and spit in his eye.

Paul G

 

[oddbob]

This thread has popped up at the perfect time for me. I've not made a thing involving scrolls ...ever! ...but have been asked to make a couple of garden chairs to exactly match some Victorian one's of a client's. They are mostly made from 3/8" and 1/4" round. I'd thought about buying one of those Sealey universal sets, but would rather make individual formers as the scrolls have to be repeated and exactly match the originals. What I'm not sure of is do I make the formers identical to the the scrolls I'm reproducing, or do I have to make them 'tighter' to allow for spring back? ...any advice would be a lifesaver!

 

[Paul G]

Definitely spring back, but how much will depend on the metal.

A wild guess; black ms 10%, bright 30%, stainless 50% etc.

Try a test piece.
Pull round a 3" rad (6" pipe ) and measure what it springs out to, then make your jig accordingly.

Easier to over bend, then open the bend up, than under bend and have to bend more.

Paul G

 

[oddbob]

Definitely spring back, but how much will depend on the metal.

A wild guess; black ms 10%, bright 30%, stainless 50% etc.

Try a test piece.
Pull round a 3" rad (6" pipe ) and measure what it springs out to, then make your jig accordingly.

Easier to over bend, then open the bend up, than under bend and have to bend more.

Paul G

Thanks ...I was thinking about making some sort of adjustable jig using thickish plate and drilling holes for dowels to the shape of the scrolls. I figure would be easy to adjust, or even bin and redo the plate, until I got it bang on.

 

[Paul G]

Not quite scrolls, but I made some gates to stop a customers dogs running up the servants stairs.
(How the other half used to live eh ? )
He used to make violins for the National Youth Orchestra as a hobby. Clever man!

So I did these.