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[s410man]

If I make a loss because my company is crap at what it does, or I make a loss. Do I get paid the difference NO.

neither do we but if every company of your type was making a loss then it would be different

farmers cannot survive without subsidies no matter how well they farm

if it is costing you more to make something than it is to sell it then you make a loss

and dont say produce it cheaper or sell it for more as the cost of production is linked to feed and land prices which farmers dont control and the selling price isnt regulated by the farmers either

it is the governments idea to try and encourage the wild birds etc back which is why they pay for set aside

 

[mike os]

farming, like steel, cars, computers or coal... if it cant survive in the real world is useless.

prices are set by demand & supply.... if they say milk is now xxx a pint & supermarkets profits are compromised then guess what... they can go buy it elsewhere if they can.

any industry (ANY) that cannot pay its own way is either past its sell by date or doomed to failure. No one else gets this kind of help why should farmers?... & dont give me the poor farmer bull****... one I know has had 3 new range rovers in the last 18 months because his wife did not like something or other about it... first one was the colour & not even her car.

 

[snowcat]

They've bee using satellite to check on farmers for a while now, and so they should. Why the hell they should be paid for not using part of their land is beyond me. If i don't use part of my workshop do I get paid money. NO. If I don't use part of my workshop do I get a Rate rebate. NO. If I make a loss because my company is crap at what it does, or I make a loss. Do I get paid the difference NO.

The bloody farmers do. So any method they can use to make sure they are not claiming for more than they are entitled to Is all good news to me

The Mapping has little to do with spying, the digital maps were bought in for the SFP for accuracy although they have taken years to become correct....

Subs were bought in to keep food plentiful and cheep and on the whole the system has worked well, the fact that your able to walk in a supermarket and buy just about anything you like is testament to the system or sit here and rant without ever really understanding the facts on the system tells me your not hungry..

Personally and its a reasonably general opion for the above reasons I would like to see the SFP abolished, If market forces like you wish were really allowed to dictate worldwide then food would become spiraling expensive.......

The risk of food shortages within the next 30 years is very real, so careful what you wish for.....

Most UK producers would survive without the SFP, the real question is would the bulk of consumers?

 

[Shox Dr]

Called it what you want. Rant or not. Reading what I typed might be a start. A bit like the weedkiller thread Oh and all the Horse tail is dead thanks

"any method they can use to make sure they are not claiming for more than they are entitled to Is all good news to me"

 

[snowcat]

read mine if you like Digital Maps are NOT for checking they are simply a more modern way of recording all the holdings to fields and growers in the UK the Maps before were old O/S maps missing quite a bit of info thats all.....

Defra randomly checks by the ticket from a hat method by hand and GPS satellite imagery just isn't advanced enough to do the leg work....

There are plenty on the British Farming forum who I'm sure would be only too happy to discuss such matters along with Herbicides, this would be much more suited for such discustion rather than a welding and metal working forum.....

I think the OP was about goggle earth not "bloody farmers" or subsidies both are politically loaded or an offensive term and not within the rules of the forum.