Gasless question

[WAYNE WRX]

Hello everyone I ordered some more gasless mig wire the other day as the reel that came with the mig has run out, (goes quick when your having fun)

To be honest, I got on well with the old and could see the weld pool clearly too, but this new reel I have bought (eBay job) it terrible stuff, I can't see the weld pool at all and is complete guess work now while welding. Needless to say its a struggle to use and will be going back on there for sale.

Before I ordered it, I made a note of the number on the side of the old reel (thought I'd be intelligent) because I was getting on well with it

The number was E71T-GS

Now I ordered a new reel with the same number on.

So my question is, why is it completely different from before, wouldn't it be the same stuff with that code?

The new reel has a different sticker on it but the same number as I say.
The make of the new reel is SWP. There was no make on the old reel

I know a lot of you will say stick with gas and I do have some on order, But I wanted some gasless as a stand by with gas being expensive.

 

[WAYNE WRX]

Just to add, this is the new reel
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150610934488&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

 

[shenion]

I see you ran into cheap Chinese wire.

STick with a name brand, Lincoln, ESAB, SIF etc. Chinese junk wire is awful. I had a roll of gas MIG wire that varied in diameter and corroded real quick. Had feed problems almost immediately.

Weldequip sells the SIF wire. Supposed to be decent.

 

[WAYNE WRX]

I see you ran into cheap Chinese wire.

STick with a name brand, Lincoln, ESAB, SIF etc. Chinese junk wire is awful. I had a roll of gas MIG wire that varied in diameter and corroded real quick. Had feed problems almost immediately.

Weldequip sells the SIF wire. Supposed to be decent.

Thanks for getting back to me
I've just looked at the Weldequip site and looked at the said wire, It also has the same number. I thought if it has that number it would all be the same
Me bad

Learned the hard way, thanks for putting me right

 

[cumbriasteve]

It's a bit like clothing, loads of Levi and Wrangler Jeans coming from the Orient, looks the same, named the same.

There are back room workshops over there doing nothing other than printing labels out by the millions and that's for anything at all... your E71T-GS will have been one of them

I think it's no secret that Ebay is one of the worlds biggest outlet for fake merchandise, they do make fairly good attempts to stop it but their own success ensures for every one they remove another ten pop up.

 

[WAYNE WRX]

Thanks Scott and Steve for that, well I have bought some SIF, and cant wait to try it out, fingers crossed its as good as the last reel I had

 

[philsmin]

I find the machine mart stuff good but a little pricey, got a roll of sip stuff in there at the minute....

 

[WAYNE WRX]

Thanks Phil for that, will update how I find the SIF reel when the postman delivers the new reel, fingers crossed it will be tomorrow

 

[philsmin]

I should add the sip stuff keeps sticking on the tip, however i'm putting that down to the wire being 0.8mm and not 0.9 like the clarke stuff so the tips are too big, gonna get new tips and see how I go........

 

[WAYNE WRX]

This isnt gasless wire but are any of these cheap chinese wire????

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/0-6MM-MIG-WEL...475?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item23041463bb

or

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MUREX-BOSTRAN...212?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item27b517f324

 

[Wozzaaah]

Weldability is ok, I've used a fair bit of that and never had any issues.
Murex eh? Hmmm.....now where have I heard that name before?......
One of the best known names in welding so no worries about the quality there.

 

[WAYNE WRX]

Weldability is ok, I've used a fair bit of that and never had any issues.
Murex eh? Hmmm.....now where have I heard that name before?......
One of the best known names in welding so no worries about the quality there.

Thanks Woz, I'll order the Murex one then, I take it thats a resonable price for that size roll?

 

[Wozzaaah]

Probably about right considering it includes postage too.

 

[WAYNE WRX]

Thankyou that been helpful

 

[WAYNE WRX]

Just an update of the new SIF gasless wire, well its in and its not sticking to my tips Phil

Anyway, I was having a little play with it tonight, and its still not as good as the reel I had before, you can see the weld pool now but its very faint, just don't feel confident using it some how, don't get me wrong its certainly usable but still not what I would say good for beginners, Just my opinion